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Re: Old Train Wheels Question
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Sat, 15 Dec 2001 07:50:55 GMT
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From: Tony Hafner <hafhead@PANTSplanetquake.com>
> In lugnet.trains, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > I have been up to something not very imaginative here: namely converting • the
> > Hogwart's push thingy into a kind of Thatcher Perkins push thingy. The
> > Thatcher Perkins is (has always been) a push train, right?
>
> The Lego one was push-only, yes. Though there is plenty of room to fit in • a
> 4.5v motor from that era. If done correctly, it wouldn't look much
> different from the outside.
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> > One of the things I'd like to know is if the black circular element on • the
> > front of the train is in fact merely an old style black train wheel, if • it's
> > not -- what is it?
> >
> > Hmmm, I may have been missing a small detail -- are there two kinds of • small
> > old train wheels? It looks like these black plastic pin wheels differ
> > slightly from the red wheels I have with the metal pins -- and the thing • on
> > the front of the Thatcher Perkins looks like the red wheels I have except • in
> > black. What's the story there?
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> Those metal-axled wheels came in black as well. I have some from
<set:162>.
These were also in a few other sets. Another idea is to "kill" an old
battery car (availible at LD, atl least in the Danish section) and use the
wheels.
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> > Also I am missing those unique arms on the wheels, does anybody have a • cool
> > design that replaces those unique elements? I have seen some technic
> > elements that have given me ideas, but I am not clear on how to attach • them
> > to the wheels.
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> There are other solutions, but I have yet to see something as compact.
> Someone else here can probably fish out pics of similar arrangements.
>
> > Lastly, because I have no real knowledge of trains, do the large wheels • in
> > the back have to be three pairs of large wheels, or can there be two and
> > even single pairs of large wheels towards the back of the engine.
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> Well, if you want it to actually represent a Thatcher Perkins then you'd
> have to keep the correct number of wheels (without doing the research, I'm
> going to go out on a limb and assume that Lego got the wheel arrangement
> correct). But you could certainly change around the number of wheels and
> have a potentially valid train design.
That is correct. The real Thatcher Perkins is at a museum in Baltimore
(Baltimode&Ohio Railway Museum). I tried to go the last time I was in the
US.
This is the real one:
http://gowest.coalliance.org/cgi-bin/imager?00002605
other pages:
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/bo_steam1.html
http://www.steamlocomotive.com/bomuseum/
http://www.dgbn.com/train/steam.html
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> Quick wheel arrangement primer for US steam engines (I forget the name of
> this system at the moment):
>
> The number of wheels is represented with 3 numbers separated by dashes. • The
> first is the number of wheels in front of the drive wheels, (aka drivers).
> The second is the number of drivers. The third is the number of wheels
> behind the drivers. If there are no leading or trailing wheels, put a • zero
> in that slot. So the Thatcher Perkins is a 4-6-0. A 4-4-0 is a real
> combination as well... called an "American" I believe. I'm no expert, so • I
> don't know if a 4-2-0 ever existed. But I can tell you that Duplo steam
> locomotives have that arrangement, so you can always use that as a guide • if
> you don't care about representing a "real" engine.
At least 4-2-2 has existed. That one looks funny.
Sonnich
www.hot.ee/sonnich/lego/
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