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Re: Another Legend dies....
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Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:31:54 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
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> > But now we have the Legend series and I'm not glad about it at all. There have
> > been some worth to read discussions (mainly Europeans against Americans) about
> > the Guarded Inn and at this point we have the same effects concerning the
> > trains. I think Jojo has said nearly all about what makes a set a legend and
> > why a re-released legend is a dead legend:
> > http://news.lugnet.com/castle/?n=9395
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> Just reread that thread and the takeaway I got is that most people here in
> the US anyway don't have a lot of sympathy for what apparently was the
> majority view on 1000steine...
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> > As a matter of fact I have to declare: Lego® ist not only a toy, but also a
> > collectors item. Many people collect sets (and pay lots of money for it).
> > Others just need the parts for playing. Most of us do both: collect things and
> > play with the stuff. I think TLC should take care of both groups: the "players"
> > want to have stuff for MOCs easily available, the "collectors" want to have
> > rare sets.
> >
> > The easiest way to solve this conflict would have been to do some slight
> > changes in the new releases (for e.g. colour modifications and new printings.)
> > The players would get the wished stuff for playing (who would care about a
> > mirrored print, if he wants to play with the stuff?) and the collectors would
> > be glad to find a new item to get it into the collection. For example the new
> > Metroliner could have been same as the old one, but in dark gray.
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> There have been slight changes! 10000 uses different parts molds (new style
> minifig torsos, 2 clip saddle, etc.) and the parts count on 10001 is going
> to be different by 2! This should make the truly "anorak"y collector quite
> happy. Unfortunately the changes are small enough that we have already seen
> what appears to be someone trying to pass off a 10000 as an original set.
I agree. In fact, the smaller the difference the more joy the anoraks will
have. Other collecting fields suffer from re-runs, I do not see why Lego
should be any different. Perhaps the anoraks should start collecting lines
which may never be reproduced? :)
Scott A
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> > And my last point (not too unimportant!): if the AFOL-market gets the
> > Metroliner now, this decreases evidently the chance to get a new well designed
> > train set (with new parts and new part-colour-combinations). Instead, the next
> > train set to follow the 4565 will probably be juniorized even worse than 4560.
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> Um, are you saying that the 5 new cars just introduced by LD aren't a vast
> step forward? They're not as good as what you or I can design (of course,
> we're not constrained the same way) but they're way better than 2126.
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> Sure, more new sets would be better but LD doesn't have that much power yet.
> Give it time. LD is changing the way things are done at TLC and what may
> seem like a glacial pace to me and Hopfrog and others is really rocket speed
> compared to how things get done inside the rest of TLC. I hope it speeds up
> more, of course, don't get me wrong.
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