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Re: Arctic is Town (was: Re: My Analysis of the 2000 Sets)
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Wed, 10 Nov 1999 05:39:02 GMT
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In lugnet.town, "Sanjay D'Souza" <sds87@hotmail.com> writes:
> Todd Lehman wrote in message <3828cc92.109117151@lugnet.com>...
> > In lugnet.general, "D Garcia" <swlego@aol.com> writes:
> > 
> > > Does Arctic really belong in Town?
> > 
> > There's absolutely no question about it.  The Arctic sets are numbered
> > 6520, 6569, 6573, 6575, 6579, etc., placing theme smack in the middle
> > of the Town range.  Divers, also part of Town, were numbered 6441, 6442,
> > 6555, 6556, 6557, 6558, 6559, 6560, 6599, etc. (plus at least 3 out-of-
> > range promo sets.)
> 
> If this is the case then Futbol shouldn't be considered part of Town/City
> Center.  [...]

Logically speaking, that conclusion doesn't follow.[1]  Something being in
63xx-66xx means that it definitely is Town, but something not being
63xx-66xx doesn't necessarily mean that it's not Town.

For example, 9 of the ~23 Ninja sets are in the 60xx range of Castle, but
the remainder are in the 1xxx and 3xxx ranges of promotional and limited-
release sets.  Two are even (very oddly, but maybe a pattern will emerge) in
the 480x range.

Since the Futbol sets are 340x and the 1998 soccer sets were 330x-331x, all
we know is that they're some sort of limited (not worldwide) release.
Futbol still could technically be part of the Town System, and I think
that's a good bet, too, because TLG has always reserved at least 100 numbers
for actual whole Systems in the past, and many short-lived play themes have
numbers all bunched together consecutively.

Consider -- big ranges...

   [misc old]                xxx      (1000)
   [misc]                   1xxx      (1000)
   Primo                    20xx-211x (120)
   [misc]                   212x-219x (80)
   Duplo                    22xx-24xx (300)
   [misc]                   25xx      (100)
   Duplo                    26xx-283x (240)
   [misc]                   284x-289x (60)
   Duplo Toolo              290x-295x?(60?)
   [misc]                   296x-299x (40)
   [misc]                   30xx      (100)
   Scala dolls              31xx-32xx (200)  <--
   [misc]                   33xx-34xx (200)
   Znap                     35xx      (100)  <--
   Fabuland                 36xx-37xx (200)  <--
   [sparse]                 38xx-39xx (200)
   Boats                    40xx      (100)  <--
   Universal                41xx      (100)  <--
   Basic/Classic            42xx      (100)  <--
   Scala jewelry            43xx      (100)  <--
   [reserved]               44xx      (100)
   9v Trains                45xx      (100)  <--
   [reserved]               46xx-47xx (200)
   [sparse]                 48xx      (100)
   Underground              49xx      (100)  <--
   Accessories              50xx-54xx (500)  <--
   Model Team               55xx      (100)  <--
   [sparse]                 56xx      (100)
   [reserved]               57xx      (100)
   Belville                 58xx      (100)  <--
   Adventurers              59xx      (100)  <--
   Castle                   60xx      (100)  <--
   Aquazone                 61xx      (100)  <--
   Pirates                  62xx      (100)  <--
   Town                     63xx-66xx (400)  <--
   Wild West                67xx      (100)  <--
   Space                    68xx-69xx (200)  <--
   [reserved]               70xx      (100)
   Star Wars                71xx      (100)  <--
   [reserved]               72xx-76xx (500)
   4.5v & 12v Trains        77xx-78xx (200)  <--
   TECHNIC                  8xxx      (1000) <--
   DACTA                    9xxx      (1000) <--


...and small, short-lived ranges:

   Space / RoboForce        2151-2154 (4)
   Aquazone / Aquaraiders   2160-2162 (3)
   Silver buckets & tubs    3024-3029 (6)
   Space / Insectoids       3070-3073 (4)
   Soccer (1998-1999)       330x-331x (20)
   Town / Paradisa          640x-641x (20)
   Town / Time Cruisers     6491-6494 (4)
   Town / Time Twisters     6495-6497 (3)
   Town / Divers
   TECHNIC / Star Wars      800x-801x?(20?)
   TECHNIC / Speed Slammers 8236-8238?(3?)
   TECHNIC / Slizer         8500-8508 (9)
   TECHNIC / Robo Riders    8509-8514 (6)
   etc.

Anyway, since Aquaraiders consisted of 3 sets 2160-2162 outside of the
normal 61xx Aquazone range, and RoboForce consisted of 4 sets 2151-2154
outside of the normal 68xx-69xx Space range, and Insectoids had 4 sets
3070-3073 outside of the normal Space range, then it's entirely possible
that the 330x-331x & 340x-341x Soccer & Futbol sets are part of Town.  I
don't know how probable it is, but it's certainly possible.


> [...]
> Seriously though, was Futbol created because the soccer sets from last year
> were a sucess? I think so!

I hope so!!

--Todd


[1] Consider:
All mice love cheese; I love cheese; Therefore I'm a mouse.  <-- unsound
All mice love cheese; I am a mouse; Therefore I love cheese.  <-- sound



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  Re: Arctic is Town (was: Re: My Analysis of the 2000 Sets)
 
Todd Lehman wrote: <snipped well mapped out discussion of set numbering theory> (...) OK, I have looked at the new catalog in some detail but I can't see where everybody is getting the label "Futbol" for these sets. I am obviously overlooking (...) (27 years ago, 10-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.town, lugnet.admin.database)

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  Re: Arctic is Town (was: Re: My Analysis of the 2000 Sets)
 
Todd Lehman wrote in message <3828cc92.109117151@...et.com>... (...) 6520, (...) If this is the case then Futbol shouldn't be considered part of Town/City Center. I just wonder how far TLG go with it. Already the bus and TV crew are on my want list (...) (27 years ago, 10-Nov-99, to lugnet.general, lugnet.town)

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