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Subject: 
Re: 2002 Star Wars flyer
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lugnet.starwars
Date: 
Tue, 11 Dec 2001 04:52:56 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Erik Olson writes:
> In lugnet.starwars, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > In lugnet.starwars, Erik Olson writes:
> > > In lugnet.starwars, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > > 
> > > > > http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=8840
> > > >   small to be.  Woohoo, white med-slope apexes!  And that tail--is that
> > > 
> > > It looks like a gable connector to me. I don't know what to make of that
> > > POOP behind it. But what's the difference? It's either one rare part or the
> > > other, obtainable in unit quantity, useless because the related elements
> > > are... unobtainable.
> > 
> >   Yeah, I meant "gable connector."  I meant apexes, as a class.
> >   But even a gable connector has uses...mecha builders, listening?
> 
> I'm aware. But, you used to get a dozen of them on one Black-n-Yellow-n-Gray
> Giant Robot (2152), then it was 2 of them on the AT-ST. And if what you want
> is a ROOF you're buying onesies and twosies, not an assortment or reasonable
> distribution.
> 
> Having white apexes available is a joke. A cruel joke. Lego can't furnish a
> complete slope system before moving on to the disparate bits of the next
> color. Still waiting for the gray apex bits, not to mention the green corners.
> White corners? Still rare...

   True.  But then again, where we stand on an issue depends on what
   we build; I don't build roofs.  I agree wholeheartedly that a complete
   slope system--all the parts available in the old red and black sets,
   in new colors--is highly desirable and useful.

   However, expecting a complete roof system to come out in a single
   set that isn't a building is a little unrealistic, yes?  Would you
   have felt better if it was a light grey gable connector?  Or a
   dark red one?  (Please, LEGO...NO NO NO NO!)

> >   This doesn't bother me one bit.  In fact, when I buy actual sets,
> >   I prefer fewer bricks and more plates/wings/etc--though when you
> >   get into pieces that are *far* too specialized, yes, I draw a line.
> 
> Well I prefer a good mixture, to reflect the Lego System in microcosm.
> Especially now that bricks are out of style in 2002. Oh wait, I forgot,
> bricks are out of style.
> 
> See http://news.lugnet.com/build/?n=10871 as a doodly example.

   I rather liked your tractor.  :)  Old McBoba had a farm...S-L-A-V-E-1

   ...I parted out 16 of 7144 after last Christmas, and they're great
   sets (were green med-slope apexes available, they'd be even better).
   I kept all of those parts, and built some very pleasant roofs out of
   them for Armada stuff, which was dismantled before I came back home
   so no pics.  :(  The *only* real problem I have with TLC brickwise
   is the elimination of tubs and buckets.  I could deal with sets that
   have special pieces and loads of plates, or ordering special elements,
   as long as I could get bulk tubs when needed.  The fact that we can't
   is really, really, REALLY annoying.

   But I never bought sets for the brick content, save earth-tones.
   "Regular" brick colors were minimal assets to my choices of set
   purchase.  I think basic bricks are valuable--I couldn't do without
   them, that's for sure--but I have little problem with Alpha Team
   and the SW lines (although the former are less attractive to me than
   the latter).

> > > The main body of the ship is a pair of new larger multi-slope pieces.
> > 
> >   I actually rather like it, in part because I'm a fan of the new
> >   slope category.
> 
> Can you stack these to get a larger continuous slope?

   If you did, they'd be "bumpy."  They're slightly rounded, after
   all, and you probably couldn't do it with the 2x6 multi-slopes.
   However, the "side" is still regular med-slope, and the 1x6 slopes
   will fill in the other side.  It's not roofing like the med-slope
   or low-slope systems, but it's not intended to be.  Consider it
   like the rounded-end bricks, or like the Droid Fighter piece if it
   were available as corners instead of one long bar.  (And you can
   fill in the ex-low-slope side of those with 6x8 roof bricks, btw.)

> >   Well, we may agree there.  It's not nearly as useful as 7130 was.
> >   However, I think it will have its uses, especially in quantity (or
> >   on sale, naturally).
> 
> Oh yeah. I forgot what price you get them at. I am out of ambulance-chasing
> energy.

   Eh, I don't chase any ambulances.  I just have a few...haunts.
   I can't run around ragged anymore either.  By "on sale" I'm thinking
   of 20-25% off, not the "preferred discount" (80-85% off).

> > > Trying really, really hard to be gracious: if there were some way that these
> > > multi-slopes could combine into larger constructions, if they somehow formed
> 
> >   Again, I'm much more optimistic.  From the general looks of it,
> >   that's going to be a very useful canopy, because it's not a half-
> >   canopy like the Naboo Fighter/B-Wing canopy, but a full flush-canopy.
> >   I'm already devising uses for the thing.
> 
> But you still can't build a larger canopy out of it.. What if there were
> extender pieces for it.

   For the B-wing/A-wing canopy?  I don't think you could reach the
   geometry of the "new" Jedi Starfighter canopy, I think a 4L extension
   "hoop" for the old canopy would be really nice.  I had originally
   hoped that the Naboo Fighter would be the basis for an entire system
   of canopies, but alas...

   I see your point about having too many standards and special parts,
   because it makes them a devil to keep track of.  But I see a lot of
   possibility in the new "clamshell system" slopes and canopies.  I
   may yet jade, of course.  :)

   best

   LFB



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  Re: 2002 Star Wars flyer
 
(...) I'm aware. But, you used to get a dozen of them on one Black-n-Yellow-n-Gray Giant Robot (2152), then it was 2 of them on the AT-ST. And if what you want is a ROOF you're buying onesies and twosies, not an assortment or reasonable (...) (25 years ago, 11-Dec-01, to lugnet.starwars)

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