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Re: MOC: Apocryphal Blacktron Freudenshadow Racer
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Date: 
Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:40:57 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Dave Schuler wrote:
   In lugnet.space, Tom McDonald wrote:
   In lugnet.space, Dave Schuler wrote:
   Tony Hafner has presented his very cool Outcast Racer, for which much praise is due. Very nice work, Tony!

Seeing this fine craft, I was inspired to try something similar, adding my own (I hope) distinctive style.
Please let me know what you think of the Apocryphal Blacktron Freudenshadow Racer.

Thanks for looking!

Dave!


FUT: OT-Clones

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I’m not the curator of this group, but I’m wondering about the decision to post this craft to .space to begin with, even though the FUT was set only to .off-topic.clones. While I recognize Tony’s craft as applicable to .space, the post’s subject is about the Freudenshadow Racer craft. Was calling it “apocryphal” at least partly meant to make its non-Lego nature more acceptable to readers of the .space forum?

Perhaps these are the ramblings of a purist, but it doesn’t seem to fit this: http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=1

Just curious...

More acceptable? I don’t know--readers will accept it or they won’t, regardless of the title. And from the deafening thread-silence that has greeted my MOC, I’d say that they won’t.

In any case, I see what you’re getting at, but I could argue that any MOC that’s an homage to a particular theme without being officially of that theme is likewise a departure from “LEGO SYSTEM Space™ products” as prescribed in the charter, and my particular departure is different primarily by degree rather than kind. However, I’m not blind to the purists’ distaste for clone bricks; let’s say that all the parts in the Freudenshadow that have true LEGO counterparts are actual LEGO elements, meaning that the craft is more than two-thirds LEGO.

Personally (not officially!) I think Dave found the right level of compromise. The craft is clearly a spacecraft, not a tugboat so it’s a spacey topic, not a castly or towny one. People talk about non LEGO but space related topics here sometimes, c.f. the discussions about SpaceShipOne that sometimes are here and sometimes elsewhere depending on their debate fodder quotient.

I think setting the FUT to clones was the right level of consideration for the sensibilities of those of us (including myself) who will never (again?) buy MB.

So I don’t think I personally have an issue. If this truly is a question we need to dig into officially, XFUT to admin somewhere and I’ll make sure other admins are aware.

As to not posting on it, I can’t speak for others, but as for myself I didnt post for two major reasons:
  • I’m not that much of a spacer (although I am a little bit).
  • I didn’t think it was Dave’s best work. It didn’t seem all that blacktronish to me. (compare with his IP2002 apocryphal, that seemed more “on theme” to me... YMMV). Hence, keeping Thumper’s father’s admonition in mind, I chose to not say anything.



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  Re: MOC: Apocryphal Blacktron Freudenshadow Racer
 
(...) That was my hope. I don't build this stuff just to annoy (though, to be honest, I do derive a little satisfaction from that aspect of it, but it's a minor consideration at most), and although I enjoy sharing these MOC's, I know that the (...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
  Re: MOC: Apocryphal Blacktron Freudenshadow Racer
 
(...) With this in mind, I give you the latest in (URL) space-borne tug-craft.> (You may need to Refresh if you've visited my MOC page before). Dave! FUT OT.Clones, again! (20 years ago, 30-Nov-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)

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(...) More acceptable? I don't know--readers will accept it or they won't, regardless of the title. And from the deafening thread-silence that has greeted my MOC, I'd say that they won't. In any case, I see what you're getting at, but I could argue (...) (20 years ago, 29-Nov-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)

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