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Re: "Elefant" Hover Tank
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Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:44:52 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Leonard Hoffman wrote: -snip-

Hey Leonard,

Sorry for not replying to the main message, but I found this one very interesting.

First I’ll talk about your MOCs.

I really like the two hover tanks! Heh. They’re very compact, sleek, and look powerful with those big guns. I also like how you (consciously or subconsciously) gave them a very Eastern feel...

Such as:
  • the rounded, sloped body
  • the low profile which cramps up crew compartment (this is horrible true of the T-72, which has one of the lowest turret design in the world, but also the most cramped)
  • the ridiculously large cannons which look way too big for a tank of that size (just like the T-72’s 125mm main cannon)
Overall, very good MOC.

My main suggestion though, would be to refine your cannons a bit. They look sorta flimsy in their current state.

  
Furthermore, I remember hearing how many fighter pilots today rely more on their scopes than on looking out the window to find their enemy. I think that in the future, clear canopies will be increasingly about aesthetics than military usefulness - especially as sensors become more and more developed. Especially in space.

Uh, that’s not entirely true. While technology is being used to its fullest potential, examples include: Russian fighter pilots using their helmet mounted sensors to guide missiles in a general direction and American pilots shooting BVR (Beyond Visual Range) missiles with powerful radar-guidance, fighter pilots still rely on their eyes to fight.

Example: dogfights

Now don’t think for a second dogfighting is a thing of the past. America thought this in Vietnam and Korea, and learned some hard lessons. Top Gun and Red Flag were created to teach American pilots how to dogfight again because it simply wasn’t being taught effectively in regular programs. Look at fighters of the Vietnam period such as the F-4 Phantom with its small, forward-facing canopy, lack of internal gun system, and large size. Now look at today’s F-16 Fighting Falcon with it’s bubble canopy, it’s 20mm internal minigun, and small, maneuverable shape.

So as you can see, pilots still have to be able to use their EYES to observe their surrounding and pick enemy targets.

Read the beginning of this page for more info.

  
Of course, the problem in lego building is the lack of “centering” that a canopy provides. It immeadiately shows where the minifig goes, and where the front is. One of the first comments I had showing a ‘in construction’ pics was “does a minifig fit in? where? - where’s the front?”

Yeah, that’s true. Somehow a canopy always makes a vehicle seem more like a “vehicle”, IMO.

  
But thank you for the compliments, especially about “out-of-the-box”. I really try to think outside of the common aesthetical cliches when building. Espeically military designs. What struck me about the Mammoth was how Mladen totally re-thought the concept of a tank within new technological background that suspensor-hover tech will provide, and I tried to implement that same re-evaluation in the Elefant.

Heh. I’m pleased you were inspired by my MOC, this is something I’m always glad to here. Again, great job on those tanks, Leonard.

  
once again thanks -lenny

Mladen Pejic



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