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Re: What is RPM of Gear Motor???
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Date: 
Wed, 7 Jul 1999 06:40:07 GMT
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My memory is a bit fuzzy here since it was a while back, but according to
my notes...

* sensors are sampled every 3ms

* rotation sensor is a quadrature encoder with a 4:1 gearing in front of
it (one rotation of the axle yields 16 "ticks").

* sensor decoding software only handles +1/-1 tick.  Opposite quadrant is
ignored (more sophisticated software could assume 2 in the previous
direction in this case, but Lego didn't think of that).

In order to never miss a "tick", sensor would have to keep up with ticks.
3ms per tick means 333.33 ticks per second = 20,000 ticks per minute =
1250 rpm.

This is all just theory, and could be wrong if I messed up on something
like the sensor sampling frequency, etc.  I do however remember having
some trouble with the rotation sensor keeping up with 1750 rpm.  I'll try
to reproduce this again.

Just curious - how are you getting 15,000 rpm - and what are you using it
for?  Most of my stuff requires lots of torque so I'm always gearing down,
not up!

Dave

In article <Pine.SOL.3.91.990706225951.9139A-100000@bio3.acpub.duke.edu>,
Luis Villa <liv@duke.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Dave Baum wrote:
> > 
> > Keep checking the math.  I clocked the motor at 330 - 350 rpm.  I used the
> > rotation sensor driven directly by the motor.  From analysis of the RCX
> > firmware, the rotation sensor should be accurate to 1250 rpm, so I'm
> > pretty confident of it being in the 350 range.
> 
> 
> Dave-
> Where are you getting that 1250 rpm upper limit from? While I haven't
> counted exactly yet, I'm dropping only 20 counts out of every
> thousand at ~15,000 rpm. I had assumed this was mainly gear slop,
> since it only appears to occur while driving the rotor in one direction
> and then stopping violently, which lets my gearing assembly roll a little
> bit even after the driving arm has bee stopped. Let me know about your
> analysis-
> Luis
> 
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> 
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> --
> Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics

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(...) Oh! Math mistake on my part... 16 instead of 4. Hmm... the ~15K was an off the top of the head estimate, which would go down to ~4K if divided by four again like it should be :) I'll have exact numbers some time today. Like I said, it is (...) (27 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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  Re: What is RPM of Gear Motor???
 
(...) Dave- Where are you getting that 1250 rpm upper limit from? While I haven't counted exactly yet, I'm dropping only 20 counts out of every thousand at ~15,000 rpm. I had assumed this was mainly gear slop, since it only appears to occur while (...) (27 years ago, 7-Jul-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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