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Re: Design
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Date: 
Mon, 5 Dec 2005 04:40:43 GMT
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steve <SJBAKER1@AIRMAIL.spamlessNET>
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Mr S wrote:
Steve,
The Chinese Turing test does indeed work when the
English speaker in the room spits out Chinese
characters asking why they don't speak English.... ?

That cannot happen - in the thought experiment,
the Chinese rule book is unaware that the person
running the rules speaks only english.

Searle's own counter to the argument that the
man+the rulebook is an intelligent system is that
the man could memorize the rulebook and step out
of the room able to speak fluent chinese without
begin able to understand a word of what he was saying
in response to chinese questioning.

This would leave use with a strange situation.

On leaving the room, the man would be able to
behave as a chinese speaker - but he conscious
'English' self would have no idea what he was
saying.

It would be like having two completely separate
individuals without one skull.  Neither would be
able to access knowledge that the other had.
Neither would be able to speak the other's language.

The situation would appear to have complete symmetry.



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--- steve <sjbaker1@airmail.net> wrote: ... (...) Except for the fact that the Chinese guy could only understand one word every million years or so. What Serle (annoyingly, yes!) fails to comprehend is that a human being who miraculously had the (...) (19 years ago, 5-Dec-05, to lugnet.robotics)

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