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Re: RIS 2.0 Problems
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lugnet.robotics
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Mon, 7 Mar 2005 17:50:52 GMT
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T. Alexander Popiel <popiel@#ihatespam#wolfskeep.com>
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In message: <422BF0BD.8010700@airmail.net>
Steve Baker <sjbaker1@airmail.net> writes:
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> Modern languages (except perhaps those produced specifically for quick-hack
> scripting) universally use the 'structured programming' paradigm - which is
> what NQC encourages.
Welcome to the religious war of the 1970s. Honestly, no ALGOL-derived
language (Pascal, C, etc) with or without Smalltalk-inspired OO extensions
(C++, Java, C#) can be called a modern language. True, some of them
have been built recently, but that doesn't make them modern any more
than a reconstruction of a Model T with new the latest steel alloys is
a modern car.
For a look at something closer to modern languages, take a peek
at Erlang, CAML, or Haskell. All of these languages center around
declarative clauses and signature pattern-matching. You'll find that
'structured programming' is just a means for making humans better at
something that the computers should be doing for us anyway (that is,
deriving the optimal control flow for solving a set of constraints).
It's certainly true that the vast majority of professional programming
these days is done using C, C++, Perl, or Java. That by itself is a
good reason to teach using NQC; it'll give the kids a salable skill.
However, popularity should not be confused with being modern.
- Alex
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 | | Re: RIS 2.0 Problems - Language war in 32k RAM
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| This thread made my day. Really! In the end, the brick is an embedded system with a whopping 32k of RAM, mostly filled up by the operating system. For me (ok, I admit, I want to drive the war a bit further...) even c++ has too much overhead to be (...) (20 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) Both use the tired old paradigm of branching around blocks of code more or less at will. This is the way BASIC and FORTRAN have always approached programming and it's well known and documented that those languages have to be 'unlearned' (at (...) (20 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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