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In lugnet.robotics, Mr S <szinn_the1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It seems to me that no matter how hard we try, without
> dedicated real time human attention and filtering,
> some spam and OT messages will eventually make it to
> the list.
It is certainly true that there is a considerable level of effort required to
ensure an open access mailing list is free of spam.
> The intelligent thing to do is not overreact, but
> simply forward to the list moderator so that it gets
> to their attention to censure the user or whatever
> methods are employed. Complaining about it never helps
> anything.
I didn't see any complaints about the specific messages. I saw a question as to
why there is a linkage between the list and lugnet.robotics.
> If you are seriously concerned and can volunteer as
> much as several hours of your day to sit and moderate
> messages on the list in real time, then you can do
> something about it, otherwise, be patient, and calm.
Moderation is certainly effective as a way to reduce spam on open lists. But
that level of effort is not at all required for LUGNET since it is,
fundamentally, not an open mailing list or collection of them.
So, therefore, while your point is completely valid when referring to open
lists, another, much simpler, alternative, is to sever the link between the
mailing list and lugnet.robotics. Most of the spam and OT complaints come from
LUGNET readers who are accustomed to a different sort of environment than an
open mailing list provides.
> While there are many academic and scientific teams
> working to create the worlds best spam trap, they
> haven't done it yet... so demanding better performance
> from a free list is just out of order in my view.
This in fact is not what is being suggested by the LUGNET reader that posted the
question about why the link exists.
I saw no demand that list administrators do anything additional beyond what they
have been doing. So therefore I would in turn say that your statement that
anyone is actually "demanding better performance" might possibly be misplaced.
Hope that helps.
++Lar
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