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Re: OS Stability concerns
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Tue, 13 May 2003 01:56:49 GMT
Original-From: 
Rob Limbaugh <rlimbaugh@greenfieldgroup.comAVOIDSPAM>
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So, someone told your company they had to buy a new car because someone
parked in your space?

Off the top of my head, I'd say the problem was caused by the way the driver
was configured on the ME machines, not because of ME itself---a device
control contention.  I'd have to know more details:  NT version? Service
Pack level? printer make/model? printer connected via TCP/IP or via parallel
port?  printer connected via mini-print server (parallel-to-tcp/ip device)?

Depending on what the equipment is, I could probably model it (I love sick
learning experiences such as this...)

What I can tell you right now is that your company was ripped off.  Two
Win98SE's would have been less than $200.

And, for the record, shady tech shops frequently state the way to solve a
problem is to upgrade something.  You know how much it costs to actually
hire people that know something?



----- Original Message -----
From: "Purple Dave" <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com>
To: <lego-robotics@crynwr.com>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: OS Stability concerns (from/was RE: Vision Command)


In lugnet.robotics, "Rob Limbaugh" <RLimbaugh@greenfieldgroup.com> writes:
Fact is, it doesn't matter what type of computer someone has or the OS
on it if hardware and associated resources are not configured properly
or if hardware is faulty.  I've yet to fix a computer where the problem
could be attributed to a "bad OS".

     Yeah?  Aside from saying the words "Floating Point Math", here's an • odd
problem for you (and one of the primary reasons we upgraded from ME to XP • on
those two machines).  Our office had one server/computer running NT, and a
network consisting of six other computers (two running ME and four running
98SE), and a printer networked from the NT server.  We discovered that all
of the 98SE machines had dedicated pathways to the printer, while the two • ME
machines did not.  The problem that we had here was that after the server
was rebooted, if either of the ME users printed to the group printer • before
_all_ of the 98SE machines had printed, the ME machines could randomly • grab
one of the dedicated 98SE printer connections, thereby locking that • computer
off from the printer until we rebooted the server (which then required
rebooting all of the other networked computers, and was getting to be a • bit
tiresome).  We checked with more than one computer consulting firm, and • none
of them was able to tell us how to _fix_ the ME problem.  The only • solution
we were ever presented with was upgrading from ME to XP (it should be • noted
that none of these consultants were expecting to actually sell copies of • XP
to us, so it wasn't a cheap way to weasel into a sale).  It can't change • the
fact that we've paid for two copies of XP already, but I'd like to know if
there is a solution that we could have used before.

     And I still think it's pointlessly stupid that a • straight-off-the-shelf
computer, running the factory-original OS on the factory-original settings
can constantly run out of enough memory to shut down on a regular basis.

     Regardless, if the OS is never the problem, that makes it even less
likely that I'll switch from one that has a 64MB minimum to one that has a
256MB minimum.  I'd rather not let the OS chew up that amount of system
resources if I've got a slimmer alternative.



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  Re: OS Stability concerns (from/was RE: Vision Command)
 
(...) Yeah? Aside from saying the words "Floating Point Math", here's an odd problem for you (and one of the primary reasons we upgraded from ME to XP on those two machines). Our office had one server/computer running NT, and a network consisting of (...) (21 years ago, 13-May-03, to lugnet.robotics)

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