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    Re: A Generic Idea —Steve Baker
   (...) It's even more than that really. Sending live video over IR really isn't feasible - there isn't anywhere near enough bandwidth to do that. What you *REALLY* want is to have enough on-board CPU power in the robot to process the images locally - (...) (21 years ago, 4-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: A Generic Idea —Øyvind Steinnes
      "Steve Baker" <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote in message news:3E171F4A.400050...ail.net... (...) :) (...) inventions (...) I'm (...) IR-connected (...) enough (...) would (...) processing. (...) legally (...) country. (...) at (...) Ok, if radio (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: A Generic Idea —Steve Baker
      (...) The problem is that the 27MHz frequencies are fairly tightly restricted in some countries. Here in the US, it's pretty much open-season, it's used by CB radios, radio controlled models - and various toys. However, in other countries (the UK (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: A Generic Idea —Henrik Erlandsson
      (...) Well, to find outline of objects you'd need a low-res (easy to simplify and automatically filters out irrelevant details), color (to avoid two objects of the same material getting their outlines fused together by the image processing (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: A Generic Idea —Steve Baker
      (...) Yeah - but the amount of CPU horsepower to do that (on the robot remember) is comparable to the horsepower you'd need to extract the edges and do some simple image recognition. So why transmit the image at all? (...) Yes - but they don't (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: A Generic Idea —Henrik Erlandsson
      (...) Sigh. I wish you would read the rest of my message and discover that I address that issue(!), instead of chopping the messages up into neat pieces which you can "deal with". (...) See? (...) Who talked about live video? I was talking about (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: A Generic Idea —Steve Baker
      (...) Ah - OK. But other things in the world (like people) are moving around - it's not always going to be possible to stop, capture a static image - and then reliably navigate based on it. I guess there are niches where such a robot could be (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: A Generic Idea —Henrik Erlandsson
      Yeah, yeah yeah. :D (21 years ago, 8-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: A Generic Idea —Henrik Erlandsson
     (...) "All ideas are stupid until someone proves they work." :D No, I've been thinking the same thing. (So it can't be stupid haha). A PDA with built-in webcam (and mike) + hotwiring an RCX input to a serial port on the PDA would probably be the (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: A Generic Idea —Steve Baker
     (...) Yes - using the RCX as a fairly dumb motor controller and sensor input device makes a lot of sense. I've been doing that with the (even more primitive) Scout computers using the RCX as the 'brain'. (URL) modern PDA would make an excellent (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: A Generic Idea —Henrik Erlandsson
     (...) That struck me just as I left to visit my father - someone's gonna have to program the thing ... ;) Well, I guess you'd just have to buy the PDA with the most open architecture. And the first (maybe only!) language you'd see would most likely (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: A Generic Idea —Henrik Erlandsson
     Speaking of PDAs, specifically Pocket PC's, the HP iPAC 5450 has Consumer IR, will that automatically take care of the comm thing with the RCX? Then I guess that would be ideal, tho expensive ($700 in Sweden). But that's provided there is a (...) (21 years ago, 6-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: A Generic Idea —Henrik Erlandsson
     (...) To clarify, I should say that the software with the cam would probably not even install on a PPC, since it doesn't even install on XP... (21 years ago, 7-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: A Generic Idea —Henrik Erlandsson
   (...) Hmm I chose cel phones because they are pretty standard products (unlike Radio links etc), simple to use (few presses) and so on, but of course, any link to a unit with memory/cpu could be an expansion... (...) ...Like an IR link to another (...) (21 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.robotics)
 

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