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Re: Some questions that relate to an idea I am thinking about
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Fri, 20 Sep 2002 12:48:58 GMT
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lego-robotics@crynwr.com (Chris 'Xenon' Hanson) wrote:

Mike Thorn wrote:
I think what you want is a 4-wheel-steering car; or better yet, a
tricycle - one motor for drive, one motor for steer. If you don't
want to paint your ceiling, stand the RCX up with the IR port to the
sky and you're set.

4WS wouldn't be as easy and it wouldn't have as great a turning
radius, but it's a more interesting design, IMHO.

   I've always wondered about the possibility of a non-steerable drive
   system
powered by one motor output, with a large 'foot' that could descend
from the center of the bot to lift the wheels/treads off the ground
(pneumatics?) and a third output controlling a motor that would rotate
the foot clockwise or counterclockwise (thus counterrotating the bot
counterclockwise or clockwise relative to the ground), and driving a
rotation sensor to moderately precise measured turns could be
executed.

   Challenges:
    Strength of lifting apparatus
    Strength and stability of 'foot'
    Weight/balance of bot (so it is stable while it is raised and
    turning)

   Has anyone done anything like this? It would seem to allow you to
   build a
very strong rigid drive system that could still execute precise tight
turns. It could not turn 'on the move' unfortunately, but it would be
a good system for a move-scan-plan-move robot that could get itself
out of tight corners.

I have built a robot based on this architecture. I used it to attend a
contest where the robots had to cover a distance, touch a wall, rotate
and come back as precisely as possible to the starting point. I don't
have a page on my site for this robot yet, but I just copied a few
pictures of it in a temporary folder:

http://www.marioferrari.org/temp/DCP_1281.JPG
http://www.marioferrari.org/temp/DCP_1287.JPG
http://www.marioferrari.org/temp/DCP_1299.JPG
http://www.marioferrari.org/temp/DCP_1301.JPG
http://www.marioferrari.org/temp/DCP_1304.JPG

As rotation sensors were not allowed, the measurement of the covered
distance was based on a light sensor facing a pulley with black & white
1x1 round plates on it. This worked very well.

It actually used a mechanical stop to control its rotation, as Steve
suggests. It was very precise: typical error on the longest distance - 5m
+ 5m - was less than 5cm. It was not the most precise robot, thoug: it
ranked second after Paolo Masetti's one, which was simply unbelievable!

Ciao
Mario



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(...) terrain, but it seems like the perfect solution for certain situations. (...) Chris - Xenon (22 years ago, 20-Sep-02, to lugnet.robotics)

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(...) I've always wondered about the possibility of a non-steerable drive system powered by one motor output, with a large 'foot' that could descend from the center of the bot to lift the wheels/treads off the ground (pneumatics?) and a third output (...) (22 years ago, 19-Sep-02, to lugnet.robotics)

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