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Re: Programming the RCX...
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:58:52 GMT
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Steve Baker <sjbaker1@NOSPAMairmail.net>
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"Michael F. Aube" wrote:
> 
> Hello to All,
> 
> I don't have a LEGO MindStorm Robot to play with yet :>(, but I've been
> doing a lot of research trying to learn the various techniques used to
> program the RCX.
> 
> Do any of you use or plan to use Java to develop your RCX programs?

There certainly is some kind of a Java implementation for RCX.  I havn't
used it though...most people start off with NQC (Not Quite C) which is
a very good starting point...then if you need more, dump the RCX firmware
and replace it with 'LegOS' - which is a more 'serious' realtime operating
system...and then you can run fully compiled C or C++ using the gcc
compilers.

> I could see one building an abstract software model of the RCX, and then
> manipulating that model visually or otherwise to produce a working RCX
> program in Scheme or any other available language for the RCX.

Well, I guess that's possible (and somewhat what the Lego provided programming
software does).

There has been a *long* history of attempts at visual programming languages -
but without exception, they have failed.  All programs of any size in the "real"
world are built with conventional text-based languages.

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  Re: Programming the RCX...
 
Steve, Thanks for the reply. I was thinking more along the lines of abstraction and simplification versus a pure visual language. Something that would make programming an RCX alot easier with respect to range checking for valid values, such as motor (...) (25 years ago, 9-Apr-01, to lugnet.robotics)
  Re: Programming the RCX...
 
(...) I have to disagree. I personally have three fairly significant robotic applications in the field which were developed using a visual programming language. I must confess that the language was not purely visual. The software IC components were (...) (25 years ago, 9-Apr-01, to lugnet.robotics)
  Re: Programming the RCX...
 
(...) National Instruments would disagree with you. Their product Labview is a tremendous success, requiring a marketing machine the size of Unigraphics'. Plenty of "real" world programs have been built with Labview. For those not familiar: Labview (...) (25 years ago, 9-Apr-01, to lugnet.robotics)

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  Programming the RCX...
 
Hello to All, I don't have a LEGO MindStorm Robot to play with yet :>(, but I've been doing a lot of research trying to learn the various techniques used to program the RCX. Do any of you use or plan to use Java to develop your RCX programs? I could (...) (25 years ago, 8-Apr-01, to lugnet.robotics)

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