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Re: Flash questions
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Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:40:31 GMT
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In lugnet.publish.html, Richard Marchetti writes:
> In lugnet.publish.html, John Henry Kruer writes:
> > Hello, all. I've been thinking about making a sight using only Flash. I'm
> > too lazy to do HTML, and Flash is much easier and cooler. :)
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> AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
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> Sorry, but that seemed a real contridiction there -- I have played with
> Swish, Flash, and HTML in my time and I cannot see how HTML could be much
> easier and accomplish what it does at the same time.
Well, maybe not as time efficient, but it allows you to make much more
flexable websites with cool side-effects.
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> > But, I have a few questions before I go and buy a real program instead of a
> > demo. Why don't more people use Flash? Is there a secret problem or
> > limitation lurking out there? I've seen a few flash-only sites, but not as
> > many as I'd expect.
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> Right. That's because Flash simply will not work for some people on some
> systems -- or because they do not wish it to work even if it could! Flash
> requires a plug-in for most browsers and when browsing from site to site to
> site, if you don't have the most recent version of Flash you will need to
> upgrade to it. Most people find that tiresome when you could just throw up
> a nice jpeg or gif image instead of a .swf Flash file.
Is this really that much of a problem these days? I mean, can anybody surf
the net properly and not eventually get flash?
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> If someone is browsing via dial-up you can forget it if you think they are
> going to upgrade to the latest and greatest Flash plug-in, it is probably
> too much trouble just to see someone's webpage. Even if a person doesn't
> need anything and they are 100% ready to go to your page and view it -- if
> they are on dial-up the load time of your animations, page after page, will
> wear them down.
I've made my webpage with no animation at all, just text and rectangles and
buttons. Each page is around 6 or 7 kilobites, though if you have more then
one page in a movie all the 'similar' things like a nav bar and title are
already loaded.
The only pages bigger then 6 or 7 kilobites are those with thumbnails to my
brickshelf pictures, and you would have to download them temporarily anyway
using HTML.
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> The bottom line is load time for a page -- if it takes too long people have
> a tendency to click those browser buttons and go someplace else.
It loads in an instant with me, even if my internet gets really slow. (Like
6 kilobites/second. And they call it high-speed cable? Traffic really gets
to it.)
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> > What program do you use? I am currently using a demo of SWiSH 2.01, and
> > plan to buy the full version in a few weeks. I don't have enough money to
> > buy the $500 macromedia Flash> :)
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> While it's not the only program to use you would probably want Flash. If
> you wanted the second place program of its type you might use LiveMotion
> from Adobe (I think it creates swf files, but I am not actually 100%
> positive of that fact). Swish is mostly for quick and dirty text and static
> image stuff -- and at that level, maybe it's okay. I really don't know.
That's what I would use mainly for my page, just text and images.
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> > -JHK, who is too lazy to learn HTML.
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> That right there should tell you something...
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> But if you think you still want to do it the "right" way -- try this site:
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> http://www.glassdog.com/design-o-rama/index.shtml
Thanks for the link. It's a helpful site.
<snip>
I'v started a Flash poll. Please fill it out to help my decisions. :)
-JHK (who is probabbly going to go on with his flash page anyway)
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