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Re: Flash questions
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Mon, 10 Feb 2003 01:23:19 GMT
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In lugnet.publish.html, John Henry Kruer writes:
> Hello, all. I've been thinking about making a sight using only Flash. I'm
> too lazy to do HTML, and Flash is much easier and cooler. :)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!
Sorry, but that seemed a real contridiction there -- I have played with
Swish, Flash, and HTML in my time and I cannot see how HTML could be much
easier and accomplish what it does at the same time.
> But, I have a few questions before I go and buy a real program instead of a
> demo. Why don't more people use Flash? Is there a secret problem or
> limitation lurking out there? I've seen a few flash-only sites, but not as
> many as I'd expect.
Right. That's because Flash simply will not work for some people on some
systems -- or because they do not wish it to work even if it could! Flash
requires a plug-in for most browsers and when browsing from site to site to
site, if you don't have the most recent version of Flash you will need to
upgrade to it. Most people find that tiresome when you could just throw up
a nice jpeg or gif image instead of a .swf Flash file.
If someone is browsing via dial-up you can forget it if you think they are
going to upgrade to the latest and greatest Flash plug-in, it is probably
too much trouble just to see someone's webpage. Even if a person doesn't
need anything and they are 100% ready to go to your page and view it -- if
they are on dial-up the load time of your animations, page after page, will
wear them down.
The bottom line is load time for a page -- if it takes too long people have
a tendency to click those browser buttons and go someplace else.
> What program do you use? I am currently using a demo of SWiSH 2.01, and
> plan to buy the full version in a few weeks. I don't have enough money to
> buy the $500 macromedia Flash> :)
While it's not the only program to use you would probably want Flash. If
you wanted the second place program of its type you might use LiveMotion
from Adobe (I think it creates swf files, but I am not actually 100%
positive of that fact). Swish is mostly for quick and dirty text and static
image stuff -- and at that level, maybe it's okay. I really don't know.
> -JHK, who is too lazy to learn HTML.
That right there should tell you something...
But if you think you still want to do it the "right" way -- try this site:
http://www.glassdog.com/design-o-rama/index.shtml
There, near the bottom of the page, you can download an HTML primer in
various file formats (surely, one should suit your purposes:
http://www.glassdog.com/design-o-rama/docs/designorama.txt). The guide is
funny, fast, and easy to understand. I even think it will point you in the
right direction for creating XHTML.
The frog uses HTML and XHTML depending on the age of the webpage. Some
things he fixes, some things he does not. He has given some thought to
using Flash as an "intro" or "portal" page for several years, but in the
main he figures that most people hate "intro" and "portal" pages.
Do not listen to David Siegel about "Creating Killer Websites"! I think it
is largely understood that he is a nutcase that never really understood that
a webpage is not a hardcopy piece of paper that you can hold in your hands.
It is still a good idea to optimize (i.e. reduce the file size and sometimes
the numbers of colors used) images for use on the web. Specify browser safe
colors for text and background fields.
-- Hop-Frog
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| (...) Well, maybe not as time efficient, but it allows you to make much more flexable websites with cool side-effects. (...) Is this really that much of a problem these days? I mean, can anybody surf the net properly and not eventually get flash? (...) (22 years ago, 13-Feb-03, to lugnet.publish.html)
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| Hello, all. I've been thinking about making a sight using only Flash. I'm too lazy to do HTML, and Flash is much easier and cooler. :) But, I have a few questions before I go and buy a real program instead of a demo. Why don't more people use Flash? (...) (22 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.publish.html)
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