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Re: Problems with website publishing
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Date: 
Tue, 1 Jan 2002 00:50:18 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Allan Bedford writes:
In lugnet.publish, Curt Tigges writes:
In lugnet.publish, Michael Golaszewski writes:
Hi there,

When you use Frontpage, you should upload your site into the following FTP
directory:
ftp://ozbricks.com/www

I hadn't done that before, so tried it just a few minutes ago and it sort of
worked. Only the page index.htm was accessible from the internet, and the
background was gone. Also, the picture and link didn't work. If you want to
look at it it's at http://www.ozbricks.com/ulfstarforce/index.htm .

I can see your welcome page.  And there is no background, or picture.

Or other pages, or links.

If you look at the ham-fisted source code that Front Page has created for
you, you'll notice that this is the link set to your picture:

<img border="0"
src="Welcome%20to%20the%20United%20Lego%20Federation.WEB/Vortec%20space.jpg"
width="480" height="360"></p>

A couple things come to mind here.

1)  Did you use a 'Long File Name', including spaces, to name your picture
file?

You mean is contrast with the old MS-DOS limitations of eight characters, a
period, and three characters for an extension?

I made sure that none of the file names or directories had spaces in the
filenames, just in case.

<snip>

2)  Does this file exist in the same directory (both on your PC and on the
server) as the index.htm file?

It does.

<snip>

You may also need to be careful when naming your directory.. ie: one of them
ends with ".web" , but it is a directory though, so maybe change it to
remove the " . "

What directory are you talking about? The one on my computer?

Both the one on your PC, and the one on the server.

Ah. Now I understand. It did end in .WEB, so I guess I'd better change it.

If this is to be a simple set of webpages, then do yourself a favor and keep
all the files in one directory.

Actually, both unfortunatly and fortunatly, it is not a simple set of
webpages. It contains 172 files, including 140 pictures and 16 pages. But,
all the files are in one directory (UnitedLF.WEB) or a subdirectory of
UnitedLF.WEB.

But remember that some HTML programs will
read in the path to the file on your own computer and put that in the code.
This becomes something called an 'absolute path'.  What you really want is
something like the example I described above, which is called a 'relative
path'.  The idea being that the code works equally well on both your PC and
once the files have been uploaded to the server.

Does that mean that I need to change the internal links in my website to the
full internet path?

My last bit of advice is this... it's o.k. to use Front Page, for
formatting, colors, image placement etc.  But why not take a few minutes to
look at some other pages on the web and see how they accomplish the same
task.  Remember that HTML can be written with a program as simple as
NotePad.  It's just a simple 'mark up' language, meaning that it is really
just code-like commands that tell the browser how to display text, pictures
etc.  I found that by learning at least basic HTML, you can often have more
control over your pages than with a program as powerful/complicated as Front
Page.

I would use a less complicated program, but unfortunatly I don't know much HTML.

Here's an example you may wish to take a look at:

http://www.apotome.com/builder/index.htm

This page was written by hand, but uses only a few images and some simple
text formatting.  It's kind of boring, but it's exactly what I wanted, and
with no extra code put in by Front Page.  Front Page works *fairly* well,
but it writes really ugly HTML code.

My pages are always done in a program called NoteTab Pro:

http://www.notetab.com

It's sort of like NotePad on steroids.  It allows me to write macros for
common tasks and to utilize colored text editing, to see comments separated
out from regular code etc.

Well, I'll investigate that program. Is NoteTab as complicated as FrontPage?

I hope some of these comments help.

Yes, thanks for the help.

You've got the hard part done, the
index page is definitely loading, you just need to tackle those images.  :)

Yep. And the other pages.

Thanks,
Curt Tigges



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Problems with website publishing
 
(...) <snip> (...) OH, NO!!!!!! I just realized that changing the name of the folder involves repairing TWO-HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-FOUR LINKS manually!!!! (...) Curt Tigges The guy who will probably never have a website :-) (23 years ago, 1-Jan-02, to lugnet.publish)
  Re: Problems with website publishing
 
(...) Its a directory structure problem. Look at (URL) just have a directory (UnitedLF.WEB) between your top level directory and the directory structure for your web pages. John (23 years ago, 1-Jan-02, to lugnet.publish)
  Re: Problems with website publishing
 
(...) I see (and hear) a lot of stuff there now. :) (...) Yes, the old eight-dot-three naming convention. :) (...) I usually do the same as well when creating web pages. (...) Was this change what allowed your background and links to load? (...) A (...) (23 years ago, 1-Jan-02, to lugnet.publish)

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  Re: Problems with website publishing
 
(...) I can see your welcome page. And there is no background, or picture. If you look at the ham-fisted source code that Front Page has created for you, you'll notice that this is the link set to your picture: <img border="0" (...) (23 years ago, 30-Dec-01, to lugnet.publish)

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