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Re: Problems with website publishing
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Date: 
Tue, 1 Jan 2002 00:50:18 GMT
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In lugnet.publish, Allan Bedford writes:
> In lugnet.publish, Curt Tigges writes:
> > In lugnet.publish, Michael Golaszewski writes:
> > > Hi there,
> > > 
> > > When you use Frontpage, you should upload your site into the following FTP
> > > directory:
> > > ftp://ozbricks.com/www
> > 
> > I hadn't done that before, so tried it just a few minutes ago and it sort of
> > worked. Only the page index.htm was accessible from the internet, and the
> > background was gone. Also, the picture and link didn't work. If you want to
> > look at it it's at http://www.ozbricks.com/ulfstarforce/index.htm .
> 
> I can see your welcome page.  And there is no background, or picture.

Or other pages, or links.

> If you look at the ham-fisted source code that Front Page has created for
> you, you'll notice that this is the link set to your picture:
> 
> <img border="0"
> src="Welcome%20to%20the%20United%20Lego%20Federation.WEB/Vortec%20space.jpg"
> width="480" height="360"></p>
> 
> A couple things come to mind here.
> 
> 1)  Did you use a 'Long File Name', including spaces, to name your picture
> file?

You mean is contrast with the old MS-DOS limitations of eight characters, a
period, and three characters for an extension?

I made sure that none of the file names or directories had spaces in the
filenames, just in case.

<snip>

> 2)  Does this file exist in the same directory (both on your PC and on the
> server) as the index.htm file?

It does.

<snip>
> > 
> > > You may also need to be careful when naming your directory.. ie: one of them
> > > ends with ".web" , but it is a directory though, so maybe change it to
> > > remove the " . "
> > 
> > What directory are you talking about? The one on my computer?
> 
> Both the one on your PC, and the one on the server.

Ah. Now I understand. It did end in .WEB, so I guess I'd better change it.

> If this is to be a simple set of webpages, then do yourself a favor and keep
> all the files in one directory.

Actually, both unfortunatly and fortunatly, it is not a simple set of
webpages. It contains 172 files, including 140 pictures and 16 pages. But,
all the files are in one directory (UnitedLF.WEB) or a subdirectory of
UnitedLF.WEB.

> But remember that some HTML programs will
> read in the path to the file on your own computer and put that in the code.
> This becomes something called an 'absolute path'.  What you really want is
> something like the example I described above, which is called a 'relative
> path'.  The idea being that the code works equally well on both your PC and
> once the files have been uploaded to the server.

Does that mean that I need to change the internal links in my website to the
full internet path?

> My last bit of advice is this... it's o.k. to use Front Page, for
> formatting, colors, image placement etc.  But why not take a few minutes to
> look at some other pages on the web and see how they accomplish the same
> task.  Remember that HTML can be written with a program as simple as
> NotePad.  It's just a simple 'mark up' language, meaning that it is really
> just code-like commands that tell the browser how to display text, pictures
> etc.  I found that by learning at least basic HTML, you can often have more
> control over your pages than with a program as powerful/complicated as Front
> Page.

I would use a less complicated program, but unfortunatly I don't know much HTML.

> Here's an example you may wish to take a look at:
> 
> http://www.apotome.com/builder/index.htm
> 
> This page was written by hand, but uses only a few images and some simple
> text formatting.  It's kind of boring, but it's exactly what I wanted, and
> with no extra code put in by Front Page.  Front Page works *fairly* well,
> but it writes really ugly HTML code.
> 
> My pages are always done in a program called NoteTab Pro:
> 
> http://www.notetab.com
> 
> It's sort of like NotePad on steroids.  It allows me to write macros for
> common tasks and to utilize colored text editing, to see comments separated
> out from regular code etc.

Well, I'll investigate that program. Is NoteTab as complicated as FrontPage?

> I hope some of these comments help.

Yes, thanks for the help.

> You've got the hard part done, the
> index page is definitely loading, you just need to tackle those images.  :)

Yep. And the other pages.

Thanks,
Curt Tigges



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Problems with website publishing
 
(...) <snip> (...) OH, NO!!!!!! I just realized that changing the name of the folder involves repairing TWO-HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-FOUR LINKS manually!!!! (...) Curt Tigges The guy who will probably never have a website :-) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-02, to lugnet.publish)
  Re: Problems with website publishing
 
(...) Its a directory structure problem. Look at (URL) just have a directory (UnitedLF.WEB) between your top level directory and the directory structure for your web pages. John (25 years ago, 1-Jan-02, to lugnet.publish)
  Re: Problems with website publishing
 
(...) I see (and hear) a lot of stuff there now. :) (...) Yes, the old eight-dot-three naming convention. :) (...) I usually do the same as well when creating web pages. (...) Was this change what allowed your background and links to load? (...) A (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-02, to lugnet.publish)

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  Re: Problems with website publishing
 
(...) I can see your welcome page. And there is no background, or picture. If you look at the ham-fisted source code that Front Page has created for you, you'll notice that this is the link set to your picture: <img border="0" (...) (25 years ago, 30-Dec-01, to lugnet.publish)

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