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Warning: Although these pages take about 20 seconds to load on my p166/linux, they do 'freeze' it for that period - while it hasn't actually crashed anything on my end, something squiffy is going on - so I disclaim any responsibility if it does (...) (25 years ago, 21-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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Richard, It seems to work on my machine (NN 4.7) Scott S. (25 years ago, 21-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) 4,6 seconds to load on my linux/P200 - mozilla doesn't have a problem with it. (...) 1.3 seconds. I know NN has problems with loading tables - it does get through them, but doesn't display anything until it gets the "</table>". dunno about (...) (25 years ago, 21-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Thanks for the stats - are those times the 'freeze' times, or the total load times? I skulked back into windows to try MSIE, and it handles the tables a *lot* more intelligently - no delay and no 'freezing'. NN in my windows is just as slow as (...) (25 years ago, 21-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Have you tried specifying the height and width of each table cell explicitly? <TD WIDTH=nnn HEIGHT=nnn> etc.? That might help the table renderer decide what to do faster. (...) ah yes, wouldn't we all. :) --Todd (25 years ago, 21-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) those were total load times - no freezing at all. :) Dan (25 years ago, 21-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Well... a couple things, I think... 1st, I'm not sure if having <TABLE><TD>blah</TD></TABLE> is "legal"... According to O'Reilly's _HTML_The_Definitive_Guide_ (3rd ed, copyright 1998): "The only content allowed within the <table> is one or (...) (25 years ago, 21-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) the (...) routine... (...) I'll have to disagree here. Please, always specify the dimensions of the images in the <IMG> tag. That way, the browser knows how much space to set aside for the image before the image is entirely loaded. Otherwise, (...) (25 years ago, 21-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Ah.. owning a book like that would probably be a start *blush* :) (...) D'oh! Thanks for that, *tweak*, I took it out and it still displays, but with the same delay.. (...) Yup, removed the extra table and it still works at the same speed. I (...) (25 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) I dunno about jpg, but iff and gif store the dimensions and colour-depth (roughly what size buffer to allocate) in the first few bytes of the image - I'd have guessed that most other formats were the same. Richard (25 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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The answer is very simple: Embedded tables. Netscape is horrible about nesting tables. Every time you put a table within another table, it adds download time to any browser. Netscape is really really slow about this, Explorer is much faster. (...) (25 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) But what if the html is completely loaded before the image even begins loading? Or what if you're browsing without images on (not that many people do that anymore...)? --Bram (25 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Actually, it looks like you could do the exact same thing with just 1 table, with about 7 columns and about 12 rows, and using: <TD HEIGHT=____ WIDTH=_____ COLSPAN=___ ROWSPAN=_____><IMG SRC=_____></TD> for each TD tag... of course if you're (...) (25 years ago, 22-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Sorry Dave, but I strongly agree with Bram on this. ALWAYS give height and width tags on your images and further, make sure that they're actually correct. The browser won't resize the image if what it got when it fetched the image matches the (...) (25 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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(...) Disagree. You can't omit the table ending tag but you can safely omit the row end and cell end tags. However you shouldn't, it's sloppy. -- Larry Pieniazek - lpieniazek@mercator.com - (URL) Mercator, the e-business transformation company fund (...) (25 years ago, 23-Mar-00, to lugnet.publish)
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