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Re: Question concerning Upcoming event
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Wed, 2 May 2001 04:44:31 GMT
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The meat of the question is NOT as Scott states it. I am beginning to get a
bit annoyed by this. A good resolution has already been reached, one that
most of the membership that spoke up seemed quite satisfied with. Why it is
being reopened is beyond me. But since it is...

The meat of the question is not "is MICHLUG *able* to benefit a religious
fundraiser by exhibiting there?" Clearly that appearance can easily be left
in the minds of attendees if the club membership desires it. The meat of the
question is whether it is *appropriate* (for a TLC funded club, mind you) to
leave that impression and to give that benefit to that group.

This was taken (not by me, initially but I see the reasoning behind the
move) to .debate so that it could squirm around as it wanted to rather than
causing a stir here in a non debate group.

Dragging it back here *after* it was resolved and couching it in some sort
of "this is an example of how religion is persecuted" rhetoric over in
.debate (in a Scott standard "I get to say my piece and then ignore the
replies" way) seems extremely counterproductive to me.

I know Scott had the audacity to say he didn't want to hear my opinion,
because he claims to "know what it is already". Unless he can more clearly
state it than he has, he *doesn't* "know what it is already".

Let me reiterate, a satisfactory solution was arrived at and seemed to meet
with general acceptance already. Why reopen this? Why not leave it as it
was? Let the debate churn around as it wants to, it no longer has anything
to do with this instance (and in fact looked to me like it was over anyway
until Scott reopened it).

I am in Ann Arbor till Friday and would be happy to meet face to face
tomorrow nite with any and all who want to discuss this further, send me an
email. What is needed here is calm, not reopening closed discussion.

In lugnet.org.us.michlug, Scott Edward Sanburn writes:
To All,

I am asking this in MichLUG as a question, feel free to e-mail me back
personally if you do not feel confortable in putting it here.

As most of you know, the fundraiser that Tony has asked us to do has turned
into another debate in off.topic.debate with people that are not involved in
our group, that feel compelled to throw their two cents in, when i feel we
as a group should have a discussion on it.

Anyway, the meat of this post is simple: Should MichLUG, as a group, should
be able to be displayed at the fundraiser? Since I know Larry P's answer
already, I would like everyone's input.

I will not go into any political or law or any other debate points, because
I feel they do not apply to our group, and our decision.

I would like an honest answer from everyone, however. I feel this issue is
causing a great deal of strife for some of us, and some seem to enjoy it.
I will post a tabulation in the coming days. Feel free to e-mail me at
ssanburn@cleanweb.net for any questions or concerns.

Thank you all for your time, and for all your efforts for our group.

Sincerely,
Scott S.
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To Larry & All, (...) a (...) Welcome to the group, or club, as it were. I was annoyed since Friday. (...) Indeed, I forgot about that, and I apologize for doing so. (...) I don't feel it was debatable, but I digress to, in terms of dropping it. (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)

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  Question concerning Upcoming event
 
To All, I am asking this in MichLUG as a question, feel free to e-mail me back personally if you do not feel confortable in putting it here. As most of you know, the fundraiser that Tony has asked us to do has turned into another debate in (...) (23 years ago, 2-May-01, to lugnet.org.us.michlug)

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