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Re: 8475 until a little while ago was seemed to be lacking.....
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Tue, 31 Dec 2002 03:37:34 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Chris Magno writes:
> its not a warm and fuzzy feeling I'm getting......
No, it certainly is not--because it's a really big concern for me how we
present ourselves in public as a group.
> Calum, I do not care if Dave's very big really cool robot attracts the
> attention of every 8 year old in the place... I have little sympathy
> for the "mean" waitress at Swiss Chalet who trips on a lap top bag that
> was safely tucked UNDER the table.
The latter, I think is fine. The former, is a problem. Primarily because
it creates a commotion and a distraction. It disturbs other people in the
restaurant when kids or other rtlToronto members rush up and gather.
Under this same reasoning, restaurants shouldn't mind say, someone parked on
the side of the street blaring his car stereo. Or delivery men dropping off
supplies through the front door. But they certainly do!
> in all the years we've had monthly dinners NOT ONCE, EVER, has anyone,
> and by anyone I mean managers, staff, patron... ANYONE ever complained
> about us or anything we've done.
We've had certainly a request for example, not to rearrange the tables at
Mel's from an irate waiter.
> If matt wants to bring a tables worth of block stacker GREAT!!! I want
> to see it. that's why we meet once a month to see each others work.
> not to eat bad chicken. or greasy poutine.
I have a problem with a tables worth of block stacker, a crate of Lego, a
tub of Castle etc. Here's why:
a) that's a table that is not going to be used for a paying customer
(especially a problem at Mel's) Even if the area is relatively empty (Swiss
Chalet) that gives the impression that area is used.
b) it makes it harder to get around for the waitstaff and for other patrons
(especially at Mel's again)
c) it draws attention of our group, which all rearrange places, making it
very confusing for the waiter. We all stand up, which causes a major
distraction.
I'll give you an example: Last night, I went to the Queensway Cineplex
Odeon to watch a movie with friends. Outside were a big crowd of people,
and several police cruisers, an ambulance and crime scene/crowd control tape
up. There was apparently a fight or a knifing out front of the theatre. My
friends and I didn't know if the place was being evacuated (bomb threat?),
there was a shooting or perhaps a take down.
One could argue, it doesn't affect business or cause disruption to the
community, because the theatre doesn't use the space out front-all of the
wickets, concessions, and theatres themselves are inside. But it certainly
causes distraction, enough that many people will turn away from the theatre.
We nearly did.
I've heard the argument that, if they really didn't like us, they'd kick us
out. But few restaurants will EVER kick a patron out. It's also not a good
idea to ever use the argument that just because no one complains doesn't
mean someone isn't comfortable.
I think we need a better solution of some sort of public space that is
conducive to Lego models (ie, a public library, a community center) that is
near a restaurant for socializing, OR a place that is more public and less
restaurant like, ie, like a Tim Hortons or something or a place that has a
private area (ie, for parties). It also has to be near the subway line for
our transit oriented members.
As for bringing stuff to dinners, use your judgement and common sense guys.
Calum
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