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| | | (...) Well, how's this for a set of rules: 1. Tower Height: Points are awarded by height of tower. Number of blocks tall 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Points 0 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 -Towers can touch each other, but the robot cannot touch the tower 2. Tower Colour: (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | (...) Can towers touch the sides of the arena? (...) Although I proposed this rule, the problem with it is it forces anyone who builds towers to also sort. Since we were discussing allowing different levels of participation to complete, this seems a (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | (...) I can't see why not...I don't think this ever came up. (...) Isn't that just six or half of one dozen? (...) Can you though? The only person to have really found home consistently was JeffE back in rtl3/4. (...) So, you want to give people (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | | (...) No, because if I build a tower without sorting the colours, and the bottom block was the opponents colour I would get nothing for it. I'm suggesting that you should get full points for the tower, but you don't get the bonus for building it all (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Rob Antonishen
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| | | | | | (...) I'd also be concerned that scoring this way would open the door to to "loophole bots" like Rob's (?) at RTL15 (URL) which, while I thought it exploited a clever loophole in the scoring, did somewhat disadvantage other bots that more closely (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Calum Tsang
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| | | | | | (...) I used to be kind of against this, because I'm sick of loophole pokers (Steve, JeffE, I'm looking in your direction...) but the thing is, we have better things to do than to try and outrule everyone. That and Steve never does it anyways. He's (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) Ok, I can't remember, what did this robot do that was considered a loop hole in the rules? (...) True it does allow for a pure sorting robot. Maybe we don't want to allow that. I thought it allowed for a good entry level robot. But it could (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | | | (...) I didn't get to see it either. I think we were too busy running our C$ robots in the final... But, I believe it moved all the marbles onto the opponent's square, because the penalty for "wrong" marbles was bigger than the points for "right" (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —David Koudys
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| | | | | | (...) What if we said that a 'bot could enter if it could only scan the Connect 4 board, or drop a chip anywhere and still be counted (though, so I'm told, that's what some of them did) The event is block stacking. We've done it 3 times before. If (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Derek Raycraft
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| | | | | | (...) The more I think about this the more I agree with David. It's a block stacking event. You score points if you stack blocks. Derek (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Steve Hassenplug
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| | | | (...) You mean by counting ALL the blocks of your home colo[u]r? It seems like only counting up to the wrong color would offer a big penalty for non-sorting robots. If two non-sorting robots compete, the winner will be the lucky one, who is last to (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —David Koudys
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| | | | | In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Steve Hassenplug wrote: <snip> (...) Wow. That is lotsa good stuff, but great googly moogly! This whole thing started 'cause I asked to run a 'mini block stacking' competition. We went from a 'lets build a nifty block (...) (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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| | | | | | Re: Onwards to rtlToronto18... —Calum Tsang
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| | | | (...) A lot of these events is pure luck :) (...) This sounds pretty reasonable, an emphasis on towers with some for sorting and homing. Calum (20 years ago, 26-Oct-04, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
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