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| | I was trying some layouts in my head yesterday after our Saturday get together and realized two problems with the mountain as it stands. (URL) (The cross tracks represent the bridge.) Number the tracks 1,2,3,4 from top to bottom. As of Sat. we had 1 (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain James Brown
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| | | | (...) <snip problems> Yup, we'll have to figure something out - but this and other details have to wait for the big question to get answered: Do we have a 'closed-loop' layout, or an 'open C' layout? That tells us if we need 3 tracks (Michel's rough (...) (24 years ago, 15-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain layout Steve Chapple
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| | | | | (...) Well, we're still working on that - this is what I got an hour ago: " It's up to you, you can be either 40 x 20 foot, or 75 x 20ish. With the 40 x 20 foot, it would be easier to keep you near the kid's play area though. " I wrote back that the (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain layout James Brown
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| | | | | (...) Hmm. Well, two and a half, but yeah, it's not a 4-sided layout location. There's an easy solution, but it depends on what requirements they have for clearances. If we do a 36x12 layout, that gives us a walkway (4' wide) behind - but the show (...) (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest Steve Chapple
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| | | | | (...) From what I've seen, they want fairly large isles - a good idea IMO. (...) "The optimist" doesn't want to get us in over our heads either. ;-) I heard back this morning, and it appears we may be able to get the "best of both worlds". The (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest James Brown
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| | | | | (...) Looks like a plan to me. Do you want me to work on some track plans, or have you already got a good idea of the layout? It would be very cool if the town area doesn't need to have 4 tracks in front of it... it doesn't seem like much, but that (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest Steve Chapple
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| | | | | (...) Yes I've got the over-all plan much the way I want it, (I'm going to incorporate Michel's idea's as possible) and plan to leave the town area entirely up to you - I'll have something more specific soon. I also just heard back - As I suspected, (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) Cool. (...) Cool. Even if the blue isn't too high to see over, I think it's OK. As long as it's too high to "accidently" walk over, or push closer, I'm OK. :) James (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest John Koob
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| | | | | | SRC wrote in message ... (...) Floorplan looks great. Looks like we can fit in two or more loops. :-] Good arrangement of tables as well. What are the dimensions? Idea: Make a track designer template containing only the tables and send it to the (...) (24 years ago, 18-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest Steve Chapple
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| | | | | (...) He's still checking on the height (and strength) of the blue barriers, but the overall plan is A-OK. 8-) I will now make a more detailed layout plan and get the town dimensions to James as soon as I can. SRC StRuCtures (24 years ago, 22-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest James Brown
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| | | | | | (...) Woohoo! :) The mountain as it currently stands is here: (URL) is not to say that it can't change, but that's currently got clearance for all the tracks, and the track sections end exactly on the baseplate lines, which will make it easy to move (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest Steve Chapple
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| | | | | This is the overall view with us in the middle of the whole show... (URL) is a 3D view of the tables, though it's not done yet... (URL) here is a screen shot of the layout so far... (URL) will be adding/changing the town on the far right hand side, (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | Here's a close-up of mountain spacing, with the "incline corner-stone reference" highlighted. I moved the "industrial loop" closer in to (URL) mountain because this way the mountain and loop have a 4'x10' table area. Let's the mountain spread out (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | | (...) track segment by itself is the "show circle" for BigRed if Kevin can get those CP stickers ready in the next three weeks... 8-) SRC (24 years ago, 24-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest James Brown
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| | | | | | | | (...) Show circle? Unless Kevin has some objection, I intend to run that sucker! :) James (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest James Brown
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| | | | | | | (...) Whoops! I didn't pay enough attention the first time around... The baseplates should be lined up with the inside, not with the outside of the tracks, if that makes sense - there's an extra 8 studs of baseplate on the outside of this: (TD (...) (24 years ago, 25-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | | (...) Just overlap the baseplates to give the result you want. As long as it fits on a 4'x10' table and the tracks are where they're supposed to be, the baseplates etc. are irrelevant (to me). :-) SRC (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest James Brown
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| | | | | | | (...) Ok. You do know that it won't fill a 4x10 table in either dimension, right? James (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout mountain sizing Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | | (...) Yup - Just didn't want it hangin' over the edge. :-) Any luck finding a grey cloth to give the illusion of the mountain extending up from the floor? That reminds me - How many of those $2 blue table cloths did Michel leave at your place? I (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout mountain sizing James Brown
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| | | | | | | (...) Cool. :) (...) Can do - although not in a fireproof varient, if they're wanting such. (...) I only have 1, unless they're hiding somewhere clever. I'll e-mail him and ask him to bring them in when he drops stuff off on the 7th. James (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 skirt Michel Magnan
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| | | | | | | I left the 10 packs of white plastic skirting at my parents with the other two blue ones, hopefully I'll have time to dash to Millwoods to pick them up before I go to Sherwood Park to drop off the rest of the stuff. Michel (...) ask (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 Steve Chapple
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| | | | | OK - I've got the layout design basically done. Here's what it looks like: (URL) a closer view of the industrial side. Moving clockwise, there is the switching yard, container yard, auto yard, and fuel yard. Michel's cool spring-loaded track ends (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 John Koob
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| | | | | | Excellent. Great yard. I can't find much to change. :-] If we will be short on straight track, no problem--I am in need of some anyway and could be convinced to place an order. LMK. John SRC wrote in message ... (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | | (...) Whoa - I'd better make a note of the date. ;-) I've added another table to the town for the grain elevator. Here's what the latest town layout looks like. Please note this is my idea and James will probably make wholesale revisions to it... (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 James Brown
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| | | | | | | (...) (URL) is, unless anyone spots something glaring, a final plan. The extra table lets us do a long stretch of highway, and what can be more Alberta than that? ;) John - I'm taking you up on your offer to do a warehouse-like building... if you (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan27 Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | | | (...) Here is the updated town incorporated into the full layout: (URL) couldn't fit the last meter or two onto the screen, but you know what it looks like from the close-up. If someone has excess blue plates they'd like to trade, I'd like to give (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 John Koob
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| | | | | | | | James Brown wrote in message ... (...) if (...) Ok. Does anyone have garage door segments that they could loan for the warehouse loading bays? I have enough to make four doors but the segment colors are a mix of clear, red, blue and black. Also the (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 Chris Gray
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I'm not sure I've ever even *seen* a Lego garage door! I don't know if they are the same slots, but I have some 1 x 4 bricks with straight side slots. 2 red, 4 grey, 4 dark grey, 14 black. (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 David K. Z. Harris
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| | | | | | | | | (...) I do have some bits that could help...What color(s) do you need for them? I mostly have red, from the old firehouses (see my roundhouse at (URL) have some smaller quantities of other colors... I also have a large number of black and of grey (...) (24 years ago, 29-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 Michel Magnan
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| | | | | | | Looks good James, is there anyway to leave a siding in front of the station, there are several passenger trains on the roster. Perhaps moving the station to the far right, enlarging that loop, and shrinking the loop on the left. Did you try just a (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 James Brown
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| | | | | | | (...) OK. (URL) think this is the final, since yours was the only suggested revision. Good idea, since this gives us a long enough straight stretch in front of the station to actually have a train not stopped on a curve or a switch. James (ps: (...) (24 years ago, 28-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest town Steve Chapple
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| | | | | | | (...) Looks like you've got enough room for two or three stations. I have a retrostation built and available - LMK if you need it. SRC (24 years ago, 30-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 Michel Magnan
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| | | | | Looks really nice Steve. You have to stop posting these improved plans, sooner or later I will weaken and take the trip to Calgary to see this in person. It would be the last thing I would enjoy in my life, as my wife would kill me for leaving her (...) (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout latest - Jan25 Kevin Maynes
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| | | | | (...) Just take her with you. There's got to be one or two passable restaurants in Calgary. Bribery will get you everywhere. Hee Hee. KMaynes (24 years ago, 27-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain James Brown
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| | | | (...) I ran across another problem if we have an 'open C' style of layout - we need another bridge. The loop containing your arch can't come back around if our layout is open behind. James (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain Chris Gray
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| | | | (...) That's where the four tracks come from. The way Steve drew it the other night, the main loop crossed over itself on the bridge, which of course implies that it can't be "water" under the bridge. (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Mountain James Brown
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| | | | (...) Hmm. I musta been out of the room at the time... If we're dispensing with the idea of the bridge going over anything, why not just run 3 continuous loops? (or in the case of an 'open C', 2 loops?) James (24 years ago, 16-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Bridges Steve Chapple
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| | | | (...) Quite right - I've got it "covered". ;-) (...) I think you were actually. :-) My original premise was that the bridge was crossing over the cross-over tracks in a larger scale update of my favorite train LEGO train cover photo from the 60's. (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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| | | | | | Re: SuperTrain 2001 layout - Bridges James Brown
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| | | | (...) I must have been low on coffee to miss this opportunity the other day... Isn't it all just water under the bridge? <GD&R> (...) Keep in mind that if we want to run absolutely everything, we need 16 height clearance on the car loader, and (...) (24 years ago, 17-Jan-01, to lugnet.org.ca.nalug)
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