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Re: Fellowship on Film
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Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:20:36 GMT
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This is a nifty movie, no doubt, but from the perspective of a dedicated Tolkien
fan, I am somewhat disappointed because much of the really important character
dynamics have been neglected or underdeveloped - dynamics that are essential to
the tale. I understand the problems of time constraints, but many of the
characters have come across as somewhat "flat" -- Aragorn and Gimli, for
example. More's the pity for those who have not read the books and don't know
what they are missing.
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Aaron Dalan writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Erik Olson writes:
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> > > Tolkien's perspective of Aragorn is that he would NEVER have abandoned
> > > Frodo. It wouldn't have been any more expensive or time consuming to stick
> > > to the script at that point, and it lost something.
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> > But there would have been all that tension with the Company puzzling out
> > just what Frodo had done, nobody knowing for sure. So the movie takes a
> > short cut to get closure on that. In the book, Boromir, and Aragorn too had
> > agreed to go only that far with Frodo (until the death of Gandalf made
> > Aragorn leader.) He still really really wants to go to Gondor. But in the
> > movie it's not even clear that they are deliberating their course. All in
> > all, I was confused by this scene. Aragorn sure lets him go easily! Isn't it
> > in the Ranger Code to say "But I insist..."?
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> I agree. In the book, Aragorn really, REALLY wanted to go to Gondor. But
> after Gandalf died, he knew it was his duty to protect Frodo and attempt to
> lead the quest for the Ring. He was in great doubt as to what to do. That
> is why the fellowship were just sitting around on the beach debating. Isn't
> there something in there where he decided to take Frodo and perhaps one
> other Hobbit and split from the main group, while the rest went to Gondor to
> help with the war? Anyway, PJ's configuration took away much of the
> richness and complexity of this troubling time. He just makes Aragorn into
> an omnipotent action hero, which I think is a shame.
> >
> > I'm not too keen on the movie dwarf jokes!
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> No one tosses a dwarf? That was an absolute insult to the intelligence. Oh
> well, something for the kids, I guess.
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> Another area where PJ's simplification hurt the movie--the character of
> Saruman. Yes, the digitally rendered flying shots of the pits of Orthanc
> were awesome, but PJ made Saruman into a mindless slave of Sauron, rather
> than a cunning schemer with a plan of his own. In fact, PJ's Elrond (much
> too bitter) gets to say some of Saruman's very best lines---"There is no
> hope left in the Elves or dying Numenor."
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| (...) I agree. In the book, Aragorn really, REALLY wanted to go to Gondor. But after Gandalf died, he knew it was his duty to protect Frodo and attempt to lead the quest for the Ring. He was in great doubt as to what to do. That is why the (...) (23 years ago, 21-Dec-01, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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