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Re: Grow up.
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Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:11:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Allan Bedford writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Shiri Dori writes:
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jude Beaudin writes:
> > > > Not since Alanis wrote a song about it. :-)
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> > > I object!! Jude, I've known you to be very ironic and I've only met you in
> > > '99 (maybe even 2000). And Alanis' song was published in '96.
> > >
> > > -Shiri
> > > "...it's like raaaaayyyyyaaaaiin..."
> >
> > Rain on your wedding day isn't ironic, it just sucks. In fact,
> > very little of that song is actually *about* ironic things.
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> Does it really matter? It's still a great song. And a ground-breaking album.
Nah, I can't agree. It's an important album, but she was
hardly the first to sing in angst-style. Why shouldn't it
matter whether or not a song makes sense? If it didn't matter,
it wouldn't need words. To each their own, however.
> > That's why I generally hate [1] Alanis, and feel that Canadians
> > should hang their heads in shame over her (and Jim Carrey, while
> > we're at it).
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> Egad! Are you insane? I do hope you're kidding. Here are two examples of
> Canadians who weren't afraid to be successful and remind us of just what's
> possible. You're kidding on this one, right?
I'm not kidding at all. There are a lot of much better role
models of success among Canadians, because they didn't become
annoyances in the process--you've got to scrape the barrel
pretty deeply, IMHO, to come up with those two (or Shatner, say,
or Tom Green). That's why I mentioned them as the figurative
lower tier of the national output [2], at least as I see it.
The Sutherlands and pretty much the entire cast of "Kids in the Hall"
would be better candidates, to me. Hey, isn't Rich Little a Canadian?
He's the taste of an older generation, but he's aged well. And, of
course, we can't forget Neil Young, Sarah Maclachlan, and Peter Jennings.
I think there's a surfeit of Canadian success to be had without resorting
to comparatively kitschy talent. I can no doubt find dozens more
without breaking a sweat.
best
LFB
[1] (Although "hate" is a very strong word for Alanis.)<--late note
[2] We can, of course, break into a litany of every nation's shameful
contributions to the entertainment world, which might be rather
fun. I think the US deserves a truckload of eyeball-biting
monkeys for Bob Saget alone...
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