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Re: A good use for Jar Jar figs.
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
> > > I was having this conversation with Barbara a few days back. She's never
> > > read the LotR books [...]
> > Have you convinced her to try them? :)
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> Yah, but they're too long. :-, I've described _The Hobbit_ to her many times,
> and in some depth, and so I suspect that some time in her life, she'll end up
> reading at least that one.
My sister knows how much I loved these books, but how little time i had to
reread them when i was constantly on the road, driving all over creation for
business, so she found 2 sets of cds at amaozon.com (I believe) that are
from a BBC adaption.... there is a 3 cd box set for The Hobbit and 11 cds
for LOR...a poor substitute for reading, but great when I was driving 1000+
miles a week w/ 2 hours between sales calls...these are not straight read by
a narrator voices, these are dramatizations...a little hokey sometimes, but
very engaging...these may be an alternative, albeit expensive, way for
Barbara to "be iniated"
The Ralph Bakshi 1980 LOR is ok, but only tells part of the story...
> > > The thing of it is, that Tolkien had a far better understanding of basic,
> > > core-level humanity than Lucas ever could have. I could go on, but I'll
> > > refrain for now...
Lucas is a visionary of sorts, legitimizing sci-fi in mainstream movies,
etc. Tolkien, however, was revolutionary...his writing (like C. S. Lewis)
can simply be dismissed as "fantasies" or "children's stories" or critically
on a scholarly level, analyzing war, politics, religion, society and
philosophy...
Star Wars knda falls short there = )
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> In particular, Tolkien's idea took many forms and went through many changes
> before it was finally published; it, in fact, has changed several times
> *between* publishings. Most of the changes have been of a polishing nature;
> though the biggest change that comes to mind is how _LotR_ changed from being a
> sequel to _The Hobbit_, to becoming a mythology of its own right -- of which
> _The Hobbit_ was ultimately an upbeat interlude within. External influences,
> like WWII and the gradual maturing of Tolkien's audience (i.e. his son Chris),
> had a lot to do with these modifications, and I suspect that the story just
> wouldn't be as good without them.
I believe the origins were in wanting to create new fairy tales for his
son,then these ideas took on a life of their own, I might be mistaken...I
read and studied JRR and CS a long time ago...
> Tolkien took the story-forming process quite a deal further than Lucas,
> however. The volumes of cultural notes and backstory that he never published
> (while he was alive, anyway) is a testament to that.
The Simirilian and other collected stories have interesting maps and pre LOR
middle earth history
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| (...) Yah, but they're too long. :-, I've described _The Hobbit_ to her many times, and in some depth, and so I suspect that some time in her life, she'll end up reading at least that one. (...) Any good storyteller will tell you that the idea's (...) (24 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
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