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Re: A good use for Jar Jar figs.
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Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:35:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jeff Stembel writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
I was having this conversation with Barbara a few days back.  She's never
read the LotR books [...]
Have you convinced her to try them?  :)

Yah, but they're too long.  :-,  I've described _The Hobbit_ to her many times,
and in some depth, and so I suspect that some time in her life, she'll end up
reading at least that one.

The thing of it is, that Tolkien had a far better understanding of basic,
core-level humanity than Lucas ever could have.  I could go on, but I'll
refrain for now...
Didn't he have the entire story (not to mention tons of the history) complete
in his head long before he wrote them down?  Lucas sure doesn't...

Any good storyteller will tell you that the idea's been there all along --
though it usually isn't.  :-,

In particular, Tolkien's idea took many forms and went through many changes
before it was finally published; it, in fact, has changed several times
*between* publishings.  Most of the changes have been of a polishing nature;
though the biggest change that comes to mind is how _LotR_ changed from being a
sequel to _The Hobbit_, to becoming a mythology of its own right -- of which
_The Hobbit_ was ultimately an upbeat interlude within.  External influences,
like WWII and the gradual maturing of Tolkien's audience (i.e. his son Chris),
had a lot to do with these modifications, and I suspect that the story just
wouldn't be as good without them.

Tolkien took the story-forming process quite a deal further than Lucas,
however.  The volumes of cultural notes and backstory that he never published
(while he was alive, anyway) is a testament to that.

You need me to use the puppets to explain this, don't you?
- Dr. Schlock
Yes, I do...  :)

I love that line.  Sluggy is awesome.

Cheers,
- jsproat



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(...) My sister knows how much I loved these books, but how little time i had to reread them when i was constantly on the road, driving all over creation for business, so she found 2 sets of cds at amaozon.com (I believe) that are from a BBC (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)  
  Re: A good use for Jar Jar figs.
 
(...) Is it not nifty? BTW, Sproat, thanks for exposing me to Sluggy. My life has never been the same. :) Steve (25 years ago, 16-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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(...) lol!!! That's a good one! :) (...) Have you convinced her to try them? :) (...) Didn't he have the entire story (not to mention tons of the history) complete in his head long before he wrote them down? Lucas sure doesn't... (...) Yes, I do... (...) (25 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)  

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