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Re: A good use for Jar Jar figs.
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Thu, 13 Apr 2000 19:35:17 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jeff Stembel writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
> > I was having this conversation with Barbara a few days back.  She's never
> > read the LotR books [...]
> Have you convinced her to try them?  :)

Yah, but they're too long.  :-,  I've described _The Hobbit_ to her many times,
and in some depth, and so I suspect that some time in her life, she'll end up
reading at least that one.

> > The thing of it is, that Tolkien had a far better understanding of basic,
> > core-level humanity than Lucas ever could have.  I could go on, but I'll
> > refrain for now...
> Didn't he have the entire story (not to mention tons of the history) complete
> in his head long before he wrote them down?  Lucas sure doesn't...

Any good storyteller will tell you that the idea's been there all along --
though it usually isn't.  :-,

In particular, Tolkien's idea took many forms and went through many changes
before it was finally published; it, in fact, has changed several times
*between* publishings.  Most of the changes have been of a polishing nature;
though the biggest change that comes to mind is how _LotR_ changed from being a
sequel to _The Hobbit_, to becoming a mythology of its own right -- of which
_The Hobbit_ was ultimately an upbeat interlude within.  External influences,
like WWII and the gradual maturing of Tolkien's audience (i.e. his son Chris),
had a lot to do with these modifications, and I suspect that the story just
wouldn't be as good without them.

Tolkien took the story-forming process quite a deal further than Lucas,
however.  The volumes of cultural notes and backstory that he never published
(while he was alive, anyway) is a testament to that.

> > You need me to use the puppets to explain this, don't you?
> >  - Dr. Schlock
> Yes, I do...  :)

I love that line.  Sluggy is awesome.

Cheers,
- jsproat



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(...) My sister knows how much I loved these books, but how little time i had to reread them when i was constantly on the road, driving all over creation for business, so she found 2 sets of cds at amaozon.com (I believe) that are from a BBC (...) (26 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)  
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(...) Is it not nifty? BTW, Sproat, thanks for exposing me to Sluggy. My life has never been the same. :) Steve (26 years ago, 16-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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(...) lol!!! That's a good one! :) (...) Have you convinced her to try them? :) (...) Didn't he have the entire story (not to mention tons of the history) complete in his head long before he wrote them down? Lucas sure doesn't... (...) Yes, I do... (...) (26 years ago, 13-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)  

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