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| | | (...) No way! 20th-century American history, or any history, isn't a science. (I can say this quite confidently.) Science is about objective measurement and conclusion; history, while often grouped with the "social sciences," is a member of the (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Problems with Darwin's theory —Arnold Staniczek
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| | | | | (...) Hm, let's see: Gerald Ford was a president of the U.S. Is this an objective historical fact or not? Am I missing something? Arnold (23 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: Problems with Darwin's theory —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | (...) We makes certain assumptions about its meaning. We (at least the Americans) will all understand these because we're in the same rhetorical system. But why did you choose Ford? What is the context of the statement, both here and in terms of its (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Problems with Darwin's theory —Arnold Staniczek
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| | | | | | Mr L F Braun <braunli1@pilot.msu.edu> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: G8CJyH.BCq@lugnet.com... (...) But don't you differentiate between the fact as such and the assumptions and conclusions you draw from it? To my understanding, THERE ARE objective facts (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Problems with Darwin's theory —Lindsay Frederick Braun
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| | | | | | | (...) There are two levels of mediation: That of the writer, and that of the reader. You and I may agree that Ford being President constitutes and objective fact because our reading (or your writing and my reading) are the same, or similar enough. I (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Problems with Darwin's theory —Jennifer Clark
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| | | | | | (...) I think the main point here is that while some things can be objectively stated, their implications may be subject to historical context. For example, say 100 years from now, it would be true to say that Elizabeth II and Henry VIII were both (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: Problems with Darwin's theory —David Eaton
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| | | | (...) Oh? Prove Clinton used to be president of the US. Can you? We're talking 100% prove. However, like science, you can show that it's ridiculously likely that he WAS president. How? Analysis of evidence. We read the papers, we ask people, we do (...) (23 years ago, 6-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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