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    Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Right, I understand that concept. I just don't find it valid. Because I don't accept relative morality. (...) Yes. (...) I don't think that's what I am saying, but since I haven't provided a derivation for universal morality I guess that might (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —David Eaton
   (...) Ah, ok. So what you're objecting to is specifically my method of moral judgement, instead proposing that some unspecified (at least at present) yet universal code is a better tool for judging morality, and that you have at least some inkling (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —Larry Pieniazek
   Snipped a lot of head twisting stuff to just answer two questions, then I HAVE to get back to writing docs... more later, maybe. (...) Yes. (...) I can't accurately answer that hypothetical. It's indeterminate since I don't accept the premise and (...) (23 years ago, 31-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —James Brown
   (...) I guess what I'm stumbling over is trying to figure out why you think/feel that morality has significance beyond a personal level. What is the justification/point/meaning of you judging me (or my morals)? Whether it's a personal standard or an (...) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) think. :-) (...) Good question. I freely admit I may be digging myself a hole here. And judging morality of individuals, in general, isn't what I want to do. Especially as it relates to victimless crimes, etc. Recall that I've said in the past (...) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —David Eaton
     (...) Let's modify it a bit: I come over to your house taking donations for the home for wayward boys. You ask about my morals. Now I say I plan to teach them the ways of Christ and bring them up as devout Christians. How much money do you give? (...) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —Tom Stangl
      (...) Larry listens to RUSH? That's a shock ;-) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) You're kidding, right? Read the liner notes on the 2112 album. :-) ++Lar (23 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Essay on Emerson vs. Thoreau; civil disobedience —James Brown
   (...) Then we agree about (IMHO) the really important part - judging actions not intent. I highly suspect what we're debating for the rest of it is fluff and semantics. <snip examples> (...) Good examples, and a solid case for the relevance of (...) (23 years ago, 1-Feb-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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