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Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:19:17 GMT
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I started a new thread on this topic...
http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=8797
-Jon
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> 1 - I dispute your 1:10^50
> 2 - I don't have the # of stars in the universe handy (NOONE does), but it is
> multi-magnitudes beyond trillions.
>
> Not to mention the possibility of multiple planets around a large # of those
> stars
> is becoming more evident as our sensing equipment improves. Just a few years
> ago,
> they couldn't prove the existence of a single planet outside of our solar
> system.
> They can now.
>
> Jon Kozan wrote:
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> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > > Jon Kozan wrote:
> > >
> > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > > (snip)
> > > > > I find given the scale of the
> > > > > universe, it seems mathematically likely that there is extra-terrestrial
> > > > > life. Evidence is suggesting that planets are fairly common. The right
> > > > > mix
> > > > > of time, elements, stablity, heat and light are required, but again, • given
> > > > > the scale, it seems earth-like conditions are likely to be reproduced on • a
> > > > > significant number of places.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry Bruce, but I must differ - you must be speaking as a layman there.
> > > > While planets seem to exists in ever-increasing numbers - that we can see
> > > > evidence of, there is no evidence of life elsewhere. Not that I'm saying • it
> > > > won't be eventually found, but the odds aren't with it.
> > > >
> > > > In fact the odds are so _not_ with it (about 1 in 10 with 50, give or • take
> > > > 10,
> > > > zeros chance) that we could never have come into being without some other
> > > > force/being/etc behind it.
> > >
> > >
> > > Even if the odds WERE 1:10^50, the sheer # of stars in the universe give it • an
> > > EXTREMELY good chance of happening elsewhere. MANY elsewhere's, actually.
> > >
> > > And thinking that God created a universe of BILLIONS (Trillions, • quadrillions,
> > > etc) of stars just to give us a pretty sky to look at, again, is rather
> > > arrogant.
> >
> > I think you're well-intentioned - but on the mathematics game -- you're • sorely
> > mis-informed.
> >
> > I'll take your billions and even trillions of stars against my 10^50 any • day.
> > You see, you're talking 10^12 vs 10^50 -it's soooo far off it's laughable.
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| 1 - I dispute your 1:10^50 2 - I don't have the # of stars in the universe handy (NOONE does), but it is multi-magnitudes beyond trillions. Not to mention the possibility of multiple planets around a large # of those stars is becoming more evident (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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