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Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism
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Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:44:51 GMT
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1 - I dispute your 1:10^50
2 - I don't have the # of stars in the universe handy (NOONE does), but it is
multi-magnitudes beyond trillions.

Not to mention the possibility of multiple planets around a large # of those stars
is becoming more evident as our sensing equipment improves.  Just a few years ago,
they couldn't prove the existence of a single planet outside of our solar system.
They can now.

Jon Kozan wrote:

> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > Jon Kozan wrote:
> > 
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> > > (snip)
> > > > I find given the scale of the
> > > > universe, it seems mathematically likely that there is extra-terrestrial
> > > > life.  Evidence is suggesting that planets are fairly common.  The right
> > > > mix
> > > > of time, elements, stablity, heat and light are required, but again, given
> > > > the scale, it seems earth-like conditions are likely to be reproduced on a
> > > > significant number of places.
> > > 
> > > Sorry Bruce, but I must differ - you must be speaking as a layman there.
> > > While planets seem to exists in ever-increasing numbers - that we can see
> > > evidence of, there is no evidence of life elsewhere. Not that I'm saying it
> > > won't be eventually found, but the odds aren't with it.
> > > 
> > > In fact the odds are so _not_ with it (about 1 in 10 with 50, give or take
> > > 10,
> > > zeros chance) that we could never have come into being without some other
> > > force/being/etc behind it.
> > 
> > 
> > Even if the odds WERE 1:10^50, the sheer # of stars in the universe give it an
> > EXTREMELY good chance of happening elsewhere.  MANY elsewhere's, actually.
> > 
> > And thinking that God created a universe of BILLIONS (Trillions, quadrillions,
> > etc) of stars just to give us a pretty sky to look at, again, is rather
> > arrogant.
> 
> I think you're well-intentioned - but on the mathematics game -- you're sorely
> mis-informed.
> 
> I'll take your billions and even trillions of stars against my 10^50 any day.
> You see, you're talking 10^12 vs 10^50 -it's soooo far off it's laughable.
> 
> hoho,
> -Jon

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