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    Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Tom Stangl
   (...) Even if the odds WERE 1:10^50, the sheer # of stars in the universe give it an EXTREMELY good chance of happening elsewhere. MANY elsewhere's, actually. And thinking that God created a universe of BILLIONS (Trillions, quadrillions, etc) of (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Jon Kozan
   (...) I think you're well-intentioned - but on the mathematics game -- you're sorely mis-informed. I'll take your billions and even trillions of stars against my 10^50 any day. You see, you're talking 10^12 vs 10^50 -it's soooo far off it's (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Dave Schuler
     (...) You likewise seem fairly well-intentioned, and I agree that 10^50 is more stars than I can hold in my hand at once. However, the Drake equation (I remembered its name at last!) addresses the likelihood of life, and it often (depending on the (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Jon Kozan
     (...) I very much appreciate having someone attempt disproof - Thanks! Actually, the Drake Equation has nothing to do with the chance of life evolving. It only has to do with the chance of communication with it (another life) given that one assumes (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Dave Schuler
     (...) Okay, but it seems to me that life must evolve into existence before it can be considered likely to communicate with us, so I still think the Drake equation gives a useful model. Especially since the number of intelligent species must by (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Jon Kozan
     (...) I started a new thread to address this! -Jon (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
    
         Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Dave Schuler
     (...) Aha! I see it now. Thanks for the heads-up; I'll check it out. Dave! (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Tom Stangl
   1 - I dispute your 1:10^50 2 - I don't have the # of stars in the universe handy (NOONE does), but it is multi-magnitudes beyond trillions. Not to mention the possibility of multiple planets around a large # of those stars is becoming more evident (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: Problems with Christianity and Darwinism —Jon Kozan
   (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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