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Re: My Gun Control Rant
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Wed, 10 Jan 2001 15:58:40 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
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> > > That is, what is your point exactly?
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> > My point is that, even when well trained (and I doubt you are), when a
> > person fires a gun the bullet can end up almost anywhere.
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> While some people were working the theme for humor value, who was actually
> arguing that point in a serious way? No one. You need to draw some
> meaningful conclusion from it or it has no relevance. That's not just an
> opinion, that's the way rhetoric works. An argument is not just a pile of
> unconnected factlets and assertions, it has to actually have a premise and a
> conclusion.
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> Go ahead. Make my day... Draw. (your conclusion). We're all waiting.
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> I have a three year old nephew who has a habit of interrupting adult
> conversations and asking "why?" When one adult patiently explains what the
> point was and answers the question in terms he ought to be able to
> understand, his usual response to the explanation is to ask "why" again. And
> again. And again. Sometimes he tosses in a "what if". He loves to play that
> game as long as the adults are willing. We know it's his way of wanting to
> participate in the conversation so we humor him, and it has a certain charm,
> the first 2 or 3 repetitions. But, most of us get tired of it after 4 or 5
> or 12 rounds.
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> Once in a while the rhetorical device of repeatedly asking why (or "what
> if?") elicits some profound new understanding. It seems like one of your
> favorite rhetorical devices but I don't see it as eliciting anything new
> this time, at least not yet it hasn't.
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> Make your real point, if you can. You're almost out of rounds in this
> particular chamber.
How macho. All this gun talk. Try to be constructive Larry.
If you think I am not making a point, just leave me alone.
Scott A
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> ++Lar
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| (...) I hate to continue an argument when people start getting personally offended (a it seems you may be Scott), but I have to add my .02 to Larry here. What (I think) Larry is saying is that we've discussed the point that yes, bullets do ricochet, (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) If you *are* making a further point, please make it. If you're *not*, say so. But if you just want to repeat the same point over and over after it's been acknowledged and after you've been asked what the further point is, I would submit that (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) While some people were working the theme for humor value, who was actually arguing that point in a serious way? No one. You need to draw some meaningful conclusion from it or it has no relevance. That's not just an opinion, that's the way (...) (24 years ago, 10-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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