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Re: Foundation of a republic (was Gun control)
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Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:04:21 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > > > Realistically, what do you think the chances are of your government going on
> > > > the "rampage"?
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> > > I'm sure the Branch Davidians perceived a rampage to be in the air,
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> > It is all a matter of perception.
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> But can't you say that about everything in a debate of this sort? And if
> you're going to make a relativist claim like that, then you undermine your
> own stance, as well.
I was using what you said... "Branch Davidians _perceived_ a rampage". It
may have been their "perception" - but they have been wrong.
> I perceive a burglar entering my home, but he
> perceives himself as a clever entrepeneur who's figured out a way to beat
> the high cost of living. Who is right?
In either case, s/he'd be breaking the law. That, however, does not mean I
have the absolute right to claim his life. Personally, if it was a choice
between him taking my stereo - or me taking his life. I'd let him have the
stereo... and my CD's - I'm insured.
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> > Ruby Ridge?
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> Check out this link:
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> http://www.mega.nu:8080/batf/www.boogieonline.com/revolution/firearms/enforce/rubyridge/index.html
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> It's not the most politically neutral of reports, but you should be able
> to garner the basics from it.
Thanks - I shall look later.
Scott A
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> Dave!
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| (...) Oh. Well, you don't expect me to pay attention when I'm typing, to you? (...) I think you meant "they may have been wrong." Anyway, I'm not sufficiently well-versed in the Waco story, but there are many who identify the use of riot tanks as (...) (26 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) But can't you say that about everything in a debate of this sort? And if you're going to make a relativist claim like that, then you undermine your own stance, as well. I perceive a burglar entering my home, but he perceives himself as a (...) (26 years ago, 8-Jan-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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