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Re: Problems with Christianity
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:22:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Steve Chapple writes:

As far as I'm concerned, my "conclusions" (our definitions on what exactly
those conclusions are would undoubtedly differ) are supported by "debate
and critical thinking".  If you refuse to accept anything Biblical however,
then yes, the debate is totally pointless.

It's not simply a matter of refusing The Bible; what Tom is (and others
are) asking is that The Bible not be taken as proof of God, since The Bible
is only valid as such proof if one accepts it as the Word of God, which is
circular.

_Somewhat_ circular, yes, but the Bible isn't the sole "proof of God".
The most obvious evidence of the Creator being His creation.

SRC



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  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) It is *entirely* circular to say that The Bible is proof of God at all. Now we're just sound-byting each other, but asserting that "creation" at large is proof of Christianity's God is circular again and hardly conclusive. I am willing to (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) Any circularity whatever is sufficient to disqualify a particular item of evidence. (...) No one in this forum (or elsewhere) has yet demonstrated a proof to my satisfaction using this basis, although it's been tried. I feel like a taxonomy of (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) It's not simply a matter of refusing The Bible; what Tom is (and others are) asking is that The Bible not be taken as proof of God, since The Bible is only valid as such proof if one accepts it as the Word of God, which is circular. What if I (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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