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Re: Problems with Christianity
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Date: 
Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:04:25 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Steve Chapple writes:

As far as I'm concerned, my "conclusions" (our definitions on what exactly
those conclusions are would undoubtedly differ) are supported by "debate
and critical thinking".  If you refuse to accept anything Biblical however,
then yes, the debate is totally pointless.

  It's not simply a matter of refusing The Bible; what Tom is (and others
are) asking is that The Bible not be taken as proof of God, since The Bible
is only valid as such proof if one accepts it as the Word of God, which is
circular.
  What if I present a piece of paper on which is typed "Elvis is still alive
as of December 22, 2000" and I claim it to have been typed by Elvis himself?
Of course he couldn't have written it if he weren't still alive, so the
paper itself must be proof that Elvis still lives.
  Of course not, because the paper requires as an assumption the very
conclusion it's trying to prove.

     Dave!



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) Thought we cleared this up??? Elvis is alive and well and living in Las Vegas. ++Lar (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) _Somewhat_ circular, yes, but the Bible isn't the sole "proof of God". The most obvious evidence of the Creator being His creation. SRC (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) As far as I'm concerned, my "conclusions" (our definitions on what exactly those conclusions are would undoubtedly differ) are supported by "debate and critical thinking". If you refuse to accept anything Biblical however, then yes, the debate (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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