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Re: Problems with Christianity
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Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:50:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes:

<snip>

So Christians, rise to the challenge if you can, otherwise, agree that
you can not support your conclusions by using the tools of debate and
critical thinking. If we can not use critical thinking and debate to
better understand Christianity, then this debate is totally worthless. I
for one am not going to accept that your "morality" is right without
being able to critically examine your assumptions.

Note the distinction Frank is making... he is asserting that the *debate* is
worthless. Not that christianity, in and of itself, is worthless, per se. If
something cannot be proven or disproven, in the end it comes down to a
preference that you personally have.

As far as I'm concerned, my "conclusions" (our definitions on what exactly
those conclusions are would undoubtedly differ) are supported by "debate
and critical thinking".  If you refuse to accept anything Biblical however,
then yes, the debate is totally pointless.

SRC



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  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) It's not simply a matter of refusing The Bible; what Tom is (and others are) asking is that The Bible not be taken as proof of God, since The Bible is only valid as such proof if one accepts it as the Word of God, which is circular. What if I (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
(...) I believe you'll have a hard time demonstrating that to my satisfaction. (...) I don't accept that every asserted fact in the bible is the literal truth. I don't even accept that every asserted fact in the bible is allegorically true. But I do (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Problems with Christianity
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Frank Filz writes: <snip> (...) Note the distinction Frank is making... he is asserting that the *debate* is worthless. Not that christianity, in and of itself, is worthless, per se. If something cannot be proven or (...) (24 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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