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Re: Nature of man (was Re: Problems with Christianity)
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Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:23:34 GMT
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SRC wrote:

> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > SRC wrote:
> > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > > > Dave Schuler wrote:
> > > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
> > > > > > In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
> > > > > > > But according to others in this group, man doesn't HAVE free will -
> > > > > > > God knows everything anyone will do from cradle to grave - where
> > > > > > > is the free will in that?
> > > 
> > > I don't know whom the "others" are, (or the group for that matter)
> > > but I see no Biblical basis for saying man doesn't have free will.
> > > Quite the opposite in fact.
> > 
> > An omnipotent, omniscient God removes free will from the equation.
> 
> You keep saying that, but I have yet to grasp the reasoning behind it.

Then you aren't reading all the posts in here.



>  <snip>
> > ...Note, mind you, I am NOT saying Christian Morals are bad, I'm
> > simply saying they were nothing new, and coopting them as a Christian
> > Idea is selfish and silly.
> 
> The knowledge of good and evil has been a part of all of us since Adam
> and Eve - yes.  I don't follow you on the coopting/selfish/silly part.

I don't believe in Adam and Eve as the true basis of our being.  Morals have
been around since before the Bible.



> > > ...Is this post pointless?
> > 
> > That could spawn another thread.  Oh wait, there already ARE several
> > threads that have some internal threads about whether arguing anything
> > is pointless or not ;-)
> 
>  lol     Yes, I've noticed them, but haven't read most of them.   :-)
> 
> > I "have faith" that Christians/you-name-it are wrong, and NOTHING
> > they can say will change my mind.
> 
> Fair enough.

Thank you.



--
| Tom Stangl, Technical Support          Netscape Communications Corp
|      Please do not associate my personal views with my employer



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(...) All? No - Just the ones in this thread - and even then it's taking up too much of my time. As I tried to elaborate on before, if I went back in time a minute or a day or whatever and knew that you decided to post this message, how could that (...) (26 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) You keep saying that, but I have yet to grasp the reasoning behind it. <snip> (...) The knowledge of good and evil has been a part of all of us since Adam and Eve - yes. I don't follow you on the coopting/selfish/silly part. (...) lol Yes, (...) (26 years ago, 22-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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