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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Date: 
Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:17:25 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tom Stangl writes:
But YOUR god (assuming he exists) sets the rules, so even if a person goes to
hell for their perceived sins, they go there because God made them, through >the rules.

But there's the rub. No one goes to hell for their sins! How could they if
Christ paid for them? The answer follows the famous John 3:16, thru the end
of the chapter. Read it for yourself.

Right you are, Bill.

They go to Hell for not rubbing blue mud in their bellybuttons (1).

Er, that is, for not accepting Christ's love, putting aside whatever logical
qualms about the contradictoriness, unprovability, or non-necessity of God's
existence, turning their backs on what makes them human, and trusting in a
deep abiding faith rather than the evidence of their senses and faculties.
*All* they have to do is that and they're all set. Oh, and pick the RIGHT
christian sect, who knows, those baptists might all be going to catholic hell.

God's not mean enough to punish men for what they actually did wrong in
life, he punishes them for not groveling properly, because he loves us.

1 - credit RAH, _Stranger in a Strange Land_ for that awesome turn of
phrase... he invents a better religion than I do, I admit.

++Lar



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(...) I remember this from the first time it was brought up :) Talk about mental images!? (...) <Typical ++Blather> Many of your "qualms" are based on your own misconceptions. (...) I like this. Again, I'm with ya on that one. (...) You betray (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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(...) But there's the rub. No one goes to hell for their sins! How could they if Christ paid for them? The answer follows the famous John 3:16, thru the end of the chapter. Read it for yourself. Bill (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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