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Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:13:30 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes:
> "Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote

> >   That's fine on a personal level, but you have to recognize that faith,
> > evidence(1), and personal experience will never prove His existence to
> > anoter person, as long as that person is objective and subjects your
> > assertions to critical analysis.
> 
> Yep, I agree.  Each individual has to come to this realization for himself
> or herself.  Until its personal, no amount of convincing really helps.  It
> may prompt them to explore the possibility, but can never confirm for anyone
> that this is true.

Sorry guys - saying that belief in God requires a leap of faith - what you're
saying in essence - is exactly what Kant said.

God is, however, not removed from reality. Belief in God can indeed be arrived
at through rational considerations - hence the whole area of apologetics.

That's not to remove the aspect of faith in any way however from the the
recipie for "salvation".

Deomons believe in God - they just don't accept Him as Lord.
It's not a matter of faith for them - and it doesn't have to be for us either.

-Jon



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  Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
Jon, Good points :-) I just haven't arrived at a rational explanation yet, besides reading some philosophers for class - and those easily get debunked if you think hard enough. Though I like C.S. Lewis, he doesn't seem that debunkable, but I haven't (...) (26 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
"Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote in message news:G4urs9.L3A@lugnet.com... (...) Yep, I agree. Each individual has to come to this realization for himself or herself. Until its personal, no amount of convincing really helps. It may prompt them (...) (26 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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