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Re: Libertarian debate in danger of pollution (was Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 16:43:50 GMT
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Jon,
Good points :-) I just haven't arrived at a rational explanation yet,
besides reading some philosophers for class - and those easily get debunked
if you think hard enough. Though I like C.S. Lewis, he doesn't seem that
debunkable, but I haven't studied him enough.
--
Tim Courtney - tim@zacktron.com
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"Jon Kozan" <jauction@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Tim Courtney writes:
> > "Dave Schuler" <orrex@excite.com> wrote
>
> > > That's fine on a personal level, but you have to recognize that • faith,
> > > evidence(1), and personal experience will never prove His existence to
> > > anoter person, as long as that person is objective and subjects your
> > > assertions to critical analysis.
> >
> > Yep, I agree. Each individual has to come to this realization for • himself
> > or herself. Until its personal, no amount of convincing really helps. • It
> > may prompt them to explore the possibility, but can never confirm for • anyone
> > that this is true.
>
> Sorry guys - saying that belief in God requires a leap of faith - what • you're
> saying in essence - is exactly what Kant said.
>
> God is, however, not removed from reality. Belief in God can indeed be • arrived
> at through rational considerations - hence the whole area of apologetics.
>
> That's not to remove the aspect of faith in any way however from the the
> recipie for "salvation".
>
> Deomons believe in God - they just don't accept Him as Lord.
> It's not a matter of faith for them - and it doesn't have to be for us • either.
>
> -Jon
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