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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:36:36 GMT
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Tom Stangl, VFAQman wrote:

John Neal wrote:

Eric McCarthy wrote:

John Neal wrote:

A Christian does good in response to God's love.  God loved us first and our
response is to reflect that love as best we can to others in our daily lives.
That is why Christians do good.  Why an atheist does is beyond me, but if anyone
knows, please do tell.

An atheist believes there is no God.  An atheist may have other beliefs,
such as "people are intrinsically good" or "I am intrinsically good."

Also, doing good as an atheist could be more self-rewarding than doing
good as a Christian.

Self-rewarding good-doing isn't by definition altruistic.

Earning brownie points to get into heaven is self-rewarding, so I guess you are saying
Christians are NEVER altruistic?

Well, there are Christians who claim that it doesn't matter what you do,
if you are among the "elect", you've already got your ticket to heaven.
Now I guess they can still claim that God is the force that motivates
them to good, but so many Christians (and people of other religions
also) just seem to squirm around, trying to evade conclusions which are
supportable by critical reasoning.

--
Frank Filz

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  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Nobody HERE ever does that, though. ++Lar (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) “Science has proof without any certainty. Creationists have certainty without any proof.” - Ashley Montague I was thinking about god last night. I think part of the problem with parts of this debate is the need of modern society to break (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Earning brownie points to get into heaven is self-rewarding, so I guess you are saying Christians are NEVER altruistic? (...) Yet your god sends people to Hell. "I love you, but go suffer for an eternity". No thanks. -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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