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Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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Date: 
Thu, 30 Nov 2000 13:35:04 GMT
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Bill Farkas wrote:


For the record, as to atrocities, it is my opinion that any action which is
diametrically opposed to the stated principles of a system cannot be then
said to be "in the name of" said system. The Bible clearly states that our
actions betray our actual beliefs, thus nullifying any apparent claim to the
contrary.

Bill

For the record, the point was any religion can provide "high moral
grounds" for the people or not. You said several times without religion,
we could not have a social life, since there would be no ethics, since
there wouldn't be a supreme being to punish us afterwards. History
proved countless times, religion can not provide a high moral ground for
the society, and this is not related to any verses of Koran or Bible.
The thing that I talked about people can act badly, and still can claim
they are believers of a religion, even they can say they act since this
was the want from the god they believe. Whether they will be considered
true believer or not, does not make any difference.

Selçuk



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  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) You're right, religion in a generic sense will not necessarily bring out the best in people. I agree that it quite often brings out the worst. I am a bigger critic than anyone on the problems in Christendom, I could go on for hours about the (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
 
(...) Again, great points. Romans chapter 2 deals with this in depth, for anyone who cares to look it up. For the record, as to atrocities, it is my opinion that any action which is diametrically opposed to the stated principles of a system cannot (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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