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Subject:	Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:17:11 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bill Farkas writes: > Actually this current discussion was started by Frank dealing with motives > for benevolence - which is where I believe the Christian ethic is pertinent. That's an interesting point, and quite similar to the "is libertarianism on the rise?" discussion. If someone adheres to good ideals which are in step with Christianity, but that person doesn't believe in God, are his ideals still good? I think Plato took a stab at this a few years ago (in the Euthyphro?). The Christian ethic, disregarding for a moment the actual presence or absence of God, is simply a good way (disregarding also the atrocities commited by those purporting to act "in the name of God") to get along with people, if one holds basic ideals of human interaction. If one accepts those ideals to be logical and self-evident, there is no need to insert a further divine validation for those ideals. Obviously this isn't a refutation of the existence of God, nor is it intended to be. Dave!

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		Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
(...) Well, depends on what Christian you ask, probably... some might say that because they weren't derived from God, they couldn't be absoloutely pure, and therefore are wrong. Another might argue that yes, the ideals are good, but because that (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

		Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
(...) Again, great points. Romans chapter 2 deals with this in depth, for anyone who cares to look it up. For the record, as to atrocities, it is my opinion that any action which is diametrically opposed to the stated principles of a system cannot (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: The god debate again... sigh (Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
(...) And yet it is kinda like sharpening swords and having at it, isn't it. Must be a guy thing. (...) And again, that's fine with me. I know what I believe, and more importantly, I know why. Believe me, I'm a huge skeptic, I question myself and (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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