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Re: Will Libertopia cause the needy to get less?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:48:19 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
> In a perfect world, Libertopia is, IMO, the best form of government you could
> have. Problem is, you need to have the perfect world *first*. People need
> to already be respectful and responsible for the system to work. I don't see
> a way for that process to happen. In fact, I see the world evolving the
> opposite way, where people are becoming more and more un*civil and less and
> less willing to take personal responsibility.
> And so, it begs the question, if you already *have* a perfect world, then
> *any* system will do, including anarchy.
This has been my contention for some time, and I'm gratified to hear it
restated so eloquently. My problem has never been with the conclusions in
Libertopia's arguments, but rather in the assumptions necessary for the
system to work.
In fact, I mentioned something very much like this a few months back:
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> It seems to me, though, that any society sufficiently infused
> with personal discipline and responsibility to effect a viable Libertopia
> would be equally able to effect a viable pure dictatorship since, presumably
> everyone including the dictator would have an equivalent respect for personal
> sovereignty. (Though I grant that such a dictatorship wouldn't be much of a
> dictatorship!)
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from http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=5781
Dave!
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| (...) Both of you have made my point very clearly - namely this, you cannot fix a problem until you are able to both realize and accept it's root. We cannot address any of societies problems until we accept the fact that it is bent on selfishness - (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) If I may interject, because you two have crystallized the crux of the matter here for me. In a perfect world, Libertopia is, IMO, the best form of government you could have. Problem is, you need to have the perfect world *first*. People need (...) (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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