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    Re: From Harry Browne —Dave Schuler
   (...) Fair enough. However, I accept the definition of death as the cessation of brain function. That is, life does not exist in a meaningful way where brain function does not exist. Therefore, it follows that life begins with the beginning of brain (...) (24 years ago, 9-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: From Harry Browne —Christopher L. Weeks
   (...) Meaningful way? It sounds like you're defining something other than life. Evidence includes the fact that carrots are alive and never have brain function. (...) I don't get the whole life befins argument. Isn't it obvious that life never (...) (24 years ago, 11-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: From Harry Browne —John DiRienzo
    Chirs, there are tons of people who don't agree with or understand "rights-based calculus" but we don't exclude them from their rights. "Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:G3v0Fx.GMC@lugnet.com... (...) begin (...) (...) (24 years ago, 11-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: From Harry Browne —Christopher L. Weeks
   (...) There are tons of sentients (not people) who are excluded from the possesion of rights. When this is justified, the arguments are typically based on the fact that they're dumber than us, religious dictate, or something seemingly undefinable (...) (24 years ago, 12-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: From Harry Browne —John DiRienzo
    "Christopher Weeks" <clweeks@eclipse.net> wrote in message news:G3wwz0.M4v@lugnet.com... (...) possesion of (...) fact (...) fetuses? (...) Who's to say plants aren't sentient? (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: From Harry Browne —Christopher L. Weeks
   (...) Anyone with a dictionary and a botany text. Chris (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: From Harry Browne —Dave Schuler
   (...) Chris: You and I could get back into our whole "meat-is-murder?" debate, if you think it would help clarify this point... 8^) Dave! (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
   
        Re: From Harry Browne —Christopher L. Weeks
   (...) <cringe> I know. I was tempted to let it drop for that very reason, but you know me. :-) Chris (24 years ago, 13-Nov-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 

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