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Re: Are humans animals? Are humans MORE than animals?
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:57:54 GMT
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Christopher Weeks wrote:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > Yes, Yes...
> >
> > That hunting/eating/cockfighting thread is huge and hard to navigate.
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> Yup, sorry. It has basically imploded due to the weight and complexity.
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> > However Dave Schuler said this:
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> > " If you can produce an animal that generally demonstrates free will, I won't
> > eat it. "
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> > which I think is the crux.
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> OK, I happen to disagree...maybe...but I'll play along.
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> > I've been watching for a while and I sense some
> > thrashing and some hostility. Play nice, people!
>
> I have been frustrated, but didn't think I was hostile. If I'm wrong, I
> apologize to the victim(s). OTOH, I'm not sure how to tell you that you're
> evil without getting on some peoples' nerves. I used to breed and raise show
> rats and was on a couple rat-themed mailing lists and tried to explain it to
> them too. It went something like this (and this isn't directed at anyone here
> in particular):
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> You belive things that I disagree with. Strongly. So much, that I think your
> actions are, to whatever extent this is meaningful, evil. I understand that it
> is because you were raised by wolves, and I don't fully fault you. And, more
> importantly, just because I think that you are grievously wrong, doesn't mean
> that I can't get along with you in a civil conversation. We might even be
> friends in the real world.
>
> Most people thought it was just arrogant. But I got a couple who thought it
> was interesting and thanked me, for whatever that's worth. In any case, that
> is the context in which my claims of righteousness should be taken. I guess I
> don't think that evil is as bad as most people do.
I'd have to agree with the majority - it's arrogant as hell to call meat eaters
evil just because you think we don't have to do it. I assert we DO have to, our
bodies work better metabolically with meat in the diet. And I DO have to eat meat
in order to enjoy myself in life. You go ahead and shovel tasteless grass into
your mouth all your life, I think you're evil for classifying "us meateaters" as
evil.
--
Tom Stangl
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