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Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?
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Date: 
Fri, 26 May 2000 14:35:32 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
And your point is?  That because I drove, the accident is my fault because I
was in the wrong place and the wrong time?

In part. Yes.  I think it's important that everyone understands that.  I think
the same thing about another touchy subject, rape victims.  Victims in all
sense own part of the responsibility for their situation.  To some degree
everyone who gets in an accident is _partially_ responsible for that accident.

  Do you mean they're "responsible" because they happened to be in the wrong
place at the wrong time?  Or "they're asking for it?"  So if I start knifing
people at random the next time I'm on the subway, it's somehow they're fault,
at least partially?  If so, then I plan to use that defense at my hearing.
"Your honor, I'm not guilty because I was stabbing at the air, an no one
would've gotten hurt if those people hadn't been standing in the way."

In both the case of government bail-out or parental protections, I consider
them more like insurance providers.  And I admit that you can apply the same
thing to parents...but it seems different.  I didn't get to pick my parents,
but I just had to wait.

  By your own assertion you are at least partially responsible for the parents
you wound up with, whether you chose them or not.

     Dave!



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  personal responsibility (was:Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?)
 
(...) accident. (...) To say that one is "asking for it" asserts they desire that outcome. Few people desire to be raped or collided with by another automobile. On the other hand, they didn't desire the opposite enough to secure that outcome. Such (...) (24 years ago, 26-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Why is AIDS such a big deal?
 
(...) Right, sorry about that. I mean that to give up ultimate responsibility for your own situation is essentially the same thing as volunteering for a kind of slavery. It's like saying that you're not capable of taking responsibility for your (...) (24 years ago, 26-May-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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