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  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) However, was every other parent who remained in East Germany a likewise unfit parent? This again seems too sweeping a claim, generalizing everyone under one circumstantial banner. That said, the fact of your uncle’s brainwashing is dreadful. I (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Sorry--I posted before "refreshing" my browser, so I didn't see that you had already replied... Dave! (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) It's not entirely a custody matter. In my view Elian applied for asylum merely by appearing here. The niceties of when was the formal petition filed and so forth are just legal machinations being used to deny civil rights. His mother gave her (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Hmm... That's interesting, and I hadn't previously considered it that way. If he'd fallen out of an overflying plane, would he (assuming his survival) likewise have applied automatically for asylum? If, while I'm vacationing in upstate New (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Elian Gonzales
 
(...) Sorry, I was insufficiently precise. Merely by *deliberately* appearing here. If I fall out of a plane flying over Rwanda by accident it probably isn't my intent to apply for asylum there. Now, normally I try to avoid assigning intent but I'd (...) (25 years ago, 27-Apr-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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