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Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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Date: 
Mon, 6 Mar 2000 22:06:10 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Peter Callaway writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
Hmmmm, interesting.  I'm one who feels that Lucifer has no power (over
the living).  None.  Zip.  Nada.  All he can do is lie.  Assuming there
is a devil.

A lie spoken into the proper ears can destroy a world, ne?


Absolutely!  But only if acted upon.

Bruce

And if the lie is "There is no God....."?


Pete Callaway

I'm not sure of the relevance of your question.

Bruce

Well you stated that Lucifer (aka the Devil) has no power other than to lie.
Let's assume for the argument's sake that there is a devil (to stop me getting
in trouble from the people who don't believe there is). The lie is in fact his
most powerful weapon. He spreads the lie around that there is no such thing as
God, and does so in such a way that does not reveal his own existence (he is
cunning, you've got to give him that).

The destruction brought about by this lie is when people act upon it. The
action could be to actively seek to disprove the existence of God, or as
simple as to do absolutely nothing, with the existence or non-existence of God
having no effect whatsoever on your life. Whichever it is, in the context of
the Bible it's destructive.

I'm just throwing a hypothetical up for general debate. If the Devil exists,
and spreads the lie that God doesn't exist, does this prove the non-existence
of God, or prove that He is who He is because the Devil (through spreading his
lies) is out to actively disprove His existence?

Here's another interesting thought. Out of all the religions in the world,
Christianity is one of the very very few (it may even be the only one) which
non-Christians actively try to disprove. Why is this so? If non-Christians
think it is such a waste of time why waste so much time trying to disprove it?


Pete Callaway



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) (emphasis mine, Peter said "a" without the stars) (...) I LOVE hypotheticals. If we posit the existence of *A* devil, is his saying that god doesn't exist necessarily a lie? No. Something that might fit the generic definition of devil might (...) (24 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) Because it is the only one--the only one in its weight class, at any rate--that can be disproved acording to internal, semi-objective standards. And whose followers won't whack you with a fatwa for trying. The other religions must not be that (...) (24 years ago, 8-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) Slow motion response. Sorry. An interesting scenario, but it doesn't seem to conflict with my supposition: i.e. he has no power other than the lie. It's not his most powerful weapon, it's his only weapon. Assuming of course, for the sake of (...) (24 years ago, 10-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) I'm not sure of the relevance of your question. Bruce (24 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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