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Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
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Date: 
Fri, 3 Mar 2000 20:56:52 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Jeremy H. Sproat writes:
No no no no no...  :-,

(i.e. eating the forbidden fruit made them mortal.)  To which Satan
replied, "you won't die but actually you'll become like the gods, knowing good
from evil".

No no no.  There was the tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life.  They at from
the first one, and were kicked out so that they wouldn't eat from the second
one and become immortal.  They weren't kicked out for becoming knowledgeable
as we usually think(that's what the listed punishments are for), they were
kicked out to prevent further "feasting"(1)

It was Satan who lied, at least partially, to get Eve to munch on that apple.
"Satan" (the serpent actually) didn't lie at all.  he said that their eyes
would be opened and they would be like God.  Their eyes were opened, and God
said that they were like Him.  I'm all for Satan bashing, but it doesn't look
like he lied here.


And, eventually, Adam and Eve did die.  (2) • ...
2.  ibid., 5:3  Well, Adam is said to have died, anyway.

What's ibid?  I believe that without the reference, but couldn't figure out
what you were referencing there.

Ben Roller

1.  The Bible, Genesis 3:22-24



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  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) "ibid" is a bibliographical term that means, roughly "same book, but from this page instead". I don't know offhand the entymological background, but I bet Mirriam-Webster does... <hunt hunt> Yep. "ib" or "ibid" is an abbreviation of ibedum, (...) (24 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) Yah, I forgot about that one in the heat of debate. So it was a combination punishment / preventative maintenance decision, then. (...) Wha--?! Whose side are you on? ;-) But I dunno; I still consider Satan's speech at least a half-lie, (...) (24 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: Does God have a monopoly on gods?
 
(...) No no no no no... :-, God basically told Adam and Eve, "eat of any of the fruit in the garden, except for the fruit of *that* tree over there, or you'll die, so don't even touch it" (i.e. eating the forbidden fruit made them mortal.) To which (...) (24 years ago, 3-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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